"Put a plug in it"

Don pianotuna@accesscomm.ca
Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:43:58


Hi Corte,

No, it involves pitch correct, coils, pitch correct (above pitch), tap and
lift, pitch correct, then tune in one week. If the client perfers these
pitch corrections can be spread out over a year of service calls every 3
months--or what ever regular time frame their pocket book can afford.

I did do this to one piano store's "rental Baldwin L", which was choosen
for performance useage. The coils had never been tapped and the pitch
droppped over 100 cents on some notes.

Not really. If maximum stability is desired then pitch correction needs to
be in the area of 2 cents. Pitch correction followed immediately by fine
tuning does not provide that sort of result. Go back a week later and
listen (or sometimes even a day).


At 10:57 AM 8/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:
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>Hi Don,
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>Unless I'm misunderstanding your description below, your technique of using
>soft blows requires 2 tunings (a prep tuning and one about a week later).
>It seems to me that a simple pitch raise immediately followed by a fine
>tuning with strong rendering blows would take care of the situation and
>only require one visit.
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>I virtually always do a quick first pass over the entire piano unless the
>instrument is already within 3 or 4 cents (a rare occasion).  However,
>after a quick pitch raise, many of the strings are still not rendered
>completely so it seems imperative to me to make sure I use strong blows
>during the fine tune.  Maybe I'm wrong in thinking this way.
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>Thanks for sharing your method.
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>Corte
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>Hi Corte,
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>The first step is getting the piano close to being in tune before you tune
>it. Second step is "setting" coils, then retune about 10 cents sharp of
>A440. Third step tap at the hitch pin, before and after rear duplex, before
>bridge pin, on bridge pin, in front of bridge pin, middle of the string
>length on the bridge, behind sounding length bridge pin, on sounding length
>bridge pin, sounding length, and lift strings on tuning pin side of
>aggraff. Now you are ready to pitch correct. Do so--and shedule a tuning
>for one week later. Impact technique works very well with soft blows for
>me, after this preparation is done.
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>At 07:37 AM 8/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:
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>>Hello List,
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>>I'm just wondering - what is the technique of tuning softly?  How does one
>>render the string properly without "forte" test blows?
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>>I learned to tune with an impact hammer and I would think that because the
>>impact hammer moves the entire pin at once (with very little twist), a
>>technique of tuning with softer test blows would be possible.  However, I
>>still use strong test blows even with an impact technique (f to ff blows).
>>I would think that with a traditional hammer, it would be almost
>impossible
>>to set pin and render the string through soft or medium blows.
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>>I've heard stories that Franz Mohr used extremely hard test blows when
>>tuning.  Of course, I've also heard that his tunings were rock-solid
>>stable.  There seems to be a correlation here.
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>>Any further comments?
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>>Corte Swearingen
>>Chicago
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>>Hi Dave,
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>>The foam ear plugs if used constantly may cause some people to tumble over
>>into hypercussivity. Trust me, you don't want to go there!
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>>Learn to tune softly. It can be done.
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>>At 03:55 PM 8/16/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>>>    I use the plain ol' foam earplugs -- the ones you squeeze and roll
>>into a smaller diameter.  I bought a whole case several years ago (200
>>pairs) for $20, and still have plenty left.  Their attenuation rating is
>>29dB, which is more than most other earplugs I've seen.  I'm not sure
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>>the custom "musician's earplugs" that one has made by an audiologist,
>>however.  But I think their attenuation is about the same.
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>>Regards,
>>Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
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>Regards,
>Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
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Regards,
Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.

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