machines or not? what?

[Farrell]

I can only recommend to Tony that you get your hands on a Verituner and  tune a few pianos. Try a few spinets. The experience will make you a believer. The VT is absolutely AMAZING! When used properly, IMHO, it will consistently yield a tuning equal to or better than a very fine aural tuning produced by a highly skilled aural tuner on a good day who is well rested and who is in a good mood and only has the one tuning that day.

Terry Farrell
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Caught" <caute@bigpond.com.au>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: machines or not? what?


> Hi André
> 
> Don't blame Alan for those comments, they are mine. I am at the moment
> trying to understand why so many people who use these machines recon that
> they are so good. To tune a piano from A0 to C8 by machine and say its tuned
> is to me just unbelievable. Who is kidding who ?
> So OK, Verituner is one that I have no experience with and from what has
> been said by you and others has led me to believe that it is not a machine,
> its a visual extension of your ear.
> My lease is due to expire on my computer and because of that I have to
> decide wether I want to buy a Verituner and do my bookwork manually or still
> tune by ear with an assist from the machine to help relieve the stress.
> 
> Look After,
> 
> Tony
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <antares@euronet.nl>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:18 AM
> Subject: machines or not? what?
> 
> 
> >
> > On vrijdag, jun 20, 2003, at 21:49 Europe/Amsterdam, Alan Forsyth wrote:
> >
> > >>>> " But this is still all based on the original scale that is set and
> > >>>> that
> > > is the way it should be.  ...To deviate from this standard (variations
> > > accepted) is not in my opinion a good practice. To allow a machine to
> > > say "
> > > Hey my C1 inharmonicity is way, way, out, so you have to tune the
> > > piano with
> > > a scale that will accept me and to hell with every other note." is not
> > > good.......So I guess that the correct way to tune a piano is still by
> > > ear.
> > > ...........">>>
> > >
> >
> >
> > I am sorry Alan Forsyth,
> > but I do not agree with you.
> > I have tuned an awful lot of piano's by ear and I have spoken here many
> > times about my aural tuning experience.
> > At the same time I have become an advocate for the most perfect tuning
> > machine: the Verituner
> >
> > This machine gives us the most perfect tuning possible with the least
> > amount of trouble. i.e. no computer stuff, no choosing of partials, no
> > anything.
> > You just choose your pitch and that's just it. A perfect box and at the
> > same time perfectly simple to handle too.
> > So far, every buyer that I know of went crazy after the very first
> > tuning : they can't believe it! they have never heard such a
> > fantastic tuning before in their whole life...every buyer!
> >
> > So think about that! you want to tune by ear? what's against that?
> > nothing. but to say "So I guess that the correct way to tune a piano is
> > still by ear' like you just said ?
> > That is today not necessary anymore. We are now living in 2003 and the
> > Verituner has been around for a number of years. leaving behind an army
> > of extremely happy tuners.
> > With all my respect for aural tuning and for you. (the other day my
> > battery was low and I had to tune aurally, the old fashioned way....I
> > grumbled but of course did the job and it was easier than ever before!
> > Using the Verituner has even improved my hearing)
> >
> > Antares,
> > The Netherlands
> >
> > see my web site : www.concertpianoservice.nl
> > and : www.grandpiano.nl
> >
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