Accu-Tuner ad

Andrew & Rebeca Anderson anrebe@zianet.com
Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:20:08 -0700


I didn't mention this in the last reply to this but I've met very few 
Yamaha grands that didn't need some judicious voicing nee the yam quarried 
hammer string.

Andrew
At 07:33 AM 11/7/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>In the end
> > even the most sophisticated tuning device is totally reliant on whatever
> > definition for a tuning lies within its programing. That in itself puts a
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>I'm really glad to read this. I've had this come up in discussions numerous
>times but because tuning, in my humble opinion, is an art it's hard to give
>a solid explanation of what the outcome of the artistic practice really is.
>Does that make sense?
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>I'm a relatively new tuner. I've tuned about 500 pianos using an Accutuner
>and 99 44/100's percent of my customers like my tunings but I don't. I've
>been through a number of classes on aural tuning but I still can't put my
>finger on  why I think my tunings don't sound like I think they should.
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>Instructors have used phrases like "the piano will talk to you and tell you
>what it wants". I keep saying, "it's not talking yet", and I get frustrated.
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>I know there are probably techniques in using the Accutuner that I am not
>fully aware of yet that would make the tunings better.
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> >From my experience explaining my perceptions about the sound of my tunings,
>and my dislike for them, can be difficult for others to understand.
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>Does this make sense?  My tunings don't seem to be "smooth, creamy, delicate
>(they have a cold edge)".  I've heard concert tunings at Sacramento State
>College, done by our former guild president Peter Clark, and they are
>wonderful. They sound smooth, creamy and delicate.
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>I've come to the conclusion that aural tuning is the only way to get those
>results. It's not just setting the temperament aurally but tuning from the
>center of the keyboard to the treble and then doing the bass, as many of the
>books and instructors teach. After setting the FAC or selecting a factory
>FAC I've been tuning from A0 to C88. I don't think the sound is the same.
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>The reason for my conclusion: A few weeks ago I had the pleasure of tuning a
>Yamaha C5 in a huge home, in an open, empty room with very high ceilings.
>The customer was an acquaintance of mine so we were candid about the tuning.
>I asked him how he liked it...his comment was "it grates on me". I thanked
>him and then said, "me too".
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>Remember, I'm not a total aural tuner.
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>I told him I know of another way to tune the piano so I set my temperament
>with the accutuner and then tuned octaves to the treble and then the bass.
>I'd only done this once before. He said he liked it. I liked it too even
>though it wasn't perfect. I spent 7 hours at the piano, no, breaks, not
>lunch, no potty.
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>I thanked him for the opportunity to tune his piano and said " its been a
>pleasure to work on this piano and learning experience. I can't take any
>money for that. Many new tuners would give their eye teeth to work on a
>piano like this". ..And I left.
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>He sent my a very nice thank you card...with a nice check...and expects to
>see me again in 6 months. I'm scared!
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>I'm taking a whole week off in November to practice my aural tuning. I hear
>things better now than when I first started but I really need to solidify my
>conceptual knowledge of aural tuning.
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>Sorry to be so long winded...bad habit my wife says...
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>Anyone understand what I mean?
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>Please be gentle...
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>Wayne Lutzow
>Lincoln, CA
>Sacramento Valley PTG
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