back check, a magical mystery tour.

Isaac OLEG oleg-i@noos.fr
Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:16:23 +0200


Because of the key and the system flex , I believe that "synchronism"
, or a very short follow-up is very well possible, assuming the hammer
hit the string and is back in check in a very short moment, and the
key did not bottom yet, for instance.
Another possibility is that the key bottom first and the hammer is in
check before the wave travel of the key is yet passed...

The hammer impact also is generating a bump, (one in the string and
one in the hammer pin) so we are yet there with 4 bumps in a very
short time.)

And so on, I will probably not dream of that tonight, so no chance I
see the light since tomorrow !

The idea of these serial of bump reinforcing a wave going toward the
tail of the piano pleases me a tad also.

A similar effect partially occur on vertical pianos , seem to me (or
part of the aforementioned)

Isaac OLEG

Ric say : > of course.... no
way these can be in sync at all to begin with..  Still.... ya gota
admit
he had a seductive explanation there.... :)

Cheers
RicB

A440A@aol.com wrote:

>Bernard writes:
>
><< the energy of the hammer returned to the backcheck and the energy
of the
>key to the keyframe become synchronous with the said 2 milimeters. If
this two
>blows are synchronized, there is a higher pulse wave running through
the
>instrument giving more additional energy to the string than when this
two blows are
>time offset (and may cause phase losses when reaching the string).<<
>
> Greetings,
>   According to Anders Askenfelt, the timing of these two events is
dependant
>on the force of the blow, so their synchronization is variable.  In
the
>publication "Five Lectures", (
http://www.speech.kth.se/music/5_lectures/ )  it is
>pretty clear that the hammer will return to the back check well after
the key
>has hit the bottom of its stroke on all but the softest blows.  The
stronger the
>blow, the earlier the key bottoms in relation to everything else.
>   There are transient pulses that do travel back and forth through
the
>action as the hammer goes through its arc, but without contacting
anything, the
>backcheck seems to be isolated until after escapement.  I am not
convinced that
>the distance from the tail of the hammer is as important as the
interfacing
>angle of tail to backcheck surface. There is certainly a feeling of
contact when
>the tail is grabbed suddenly by an acutely angled backcheck as
opposed to the
>longer path the tail makes when contacting a more parallel surface of
the
>backcheck. This seems to be no greater than the differences that can
be felt with
>different hardness of key end felt under the damper levers, though.
>Regards,
>
>Ed Foote RPT
>http://www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/index.html
>www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html
>
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