Dean, Just what is it about your Christian faith that leads you to believe it is good to insult other people? I'm not hostile to the Christian faith, as some of my Christian friends here can attest. Indeed, my system of morality is patterned upon the Christian faith. Rather, I am hostile to those who ABUSE Christianity in order to insult, persecute, and/or subjugate others. I am speaking in defense of those who you are maligning. Your "Orthodox Christianity" badge gives you no special rights over me or Rob's client or anyone else. I'm not telling you how to interpret the Bible, so much as asking you please not to use imaginary scripture to thump insultingly at your clientele, colleagues, and others. If your Bible is the basis of your system of disrespect, then I will of course challenge you on it. BTW, I presume by your response that these passages are as absent from the Bible as I have indicated. Correct? Otherwise, I would think there would be more to your response. And yes, you are very old-fashioned, with regard to the puritan movement. If you were a bit "older" fashioned, you would be much more progressive. I had provided you the link to my web site in hope that you would read and learn. Obviously you just looked at my picture to see if I look like a man in a dress, and you completely missed all the prominently linked educational stuff, including newsletters, speeches, and other yawners. I think that says a lot. Many (very attractive) transsexuals do not put their pictures on their web sites for that reason, and I'm beginning to think that would be a good idea. Try to understand this, Dean, and all of you: It doesn't matter how I look. It doesn't matter if I'm as large and hairy as an 800 lb gorilla, as sex-less as a Star Trek alien character of some sort, or even as amorphous as a blob of jello. "Stop judging by mere appearances." (John 7:24) If I say I'm female, because everything about me tells me I'm female, then who are you to presume to tell me otherwise? (This is very much a Customer Relations 101 point. Do you understand this?) I'm not a "he/she," as you put it. I'm a "she." That's how I live my life, and that's what I am. Rob's client, likewise, is a "she." You can disagree, of course, but (and here's the main point) it is RUDE beyond description for you to tell me I'm male or male/female, especially when I've sacrificed everything to get where I am. It is also RUDE of you to tell others that I'm male or male/female. The person who ultimately knows the most about whether I'm male or female is I, not YOU. The same is true, by extension, with regard to Rob's client. And yes, although I appear to be Caucasian, if I were to insist that I'm African American (correctly or incorrectly), it would be RUDE of you to declare otherwise, unless it were some sort of legal issue or something. If it's a matter of self identity, what should it matter to you? When you go to a customer's home, and that customer presents as woman who you suspect has a male background (which applies to a number of genetic women, by the way, so be veeeery, veeeery careful!), DO NOT call her "sir." That would be RUDE. Call her "ma'am," or don't call her anything at all. Save your shallow, poorly informed opinions for when you return to your OWN home. Understand? Furthermore, don't tell others, "he/she says he/she is female, but I regard him/her as a he/she." That is equally disrespectful to the person. You shouldn't say behind someone's back what you wouldn't/shouldn't say to their face. Keep your negative opinions about other people where they belong -- in your head. Dean, there's soooo much in the Bible about speaking hurtful and damaging things about people that I'm surprised you've never come across any of it. For your reading pleasure, I've pulled up several verses (a small fraction of the total volume), in no particular order, some from the Old Testament, and some from the New. I've not studied them carefully, so a couple of them may be out of context. But I gather from the proliferation of these verses that there must be something wrong, per the Bible, with insulting people in front of others and/or behind their backs (e.g. calling a woman a man). ~~ All you non-Bible-thumpers, please ignore, and consider this the end of my message ~~ Leviticus 19 16 " 'Do not go about spreading slander among your people. " 'Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor's life. I am the LORD . Psalm 15 1 LORD , who may dwell in your sanctuary? Who may live on your holy hill? 2 He whose walk is blameless and who does what is righteous, who speaks the truth from his heart 3 and has no slander on his tongue, who does his neighbor no wrong and casts no slur on his fellowman, Psalm 10 7 His mouth is full of curses and lies and threats; trouble and evil are under his tongue. Psalm 41 5 My enemies say of me in malice, "When will he die and his name perish?" 6 Whenever one comes to see me, he speaks falsely, while his heart gathers slander; then he goes out and spreads it abroad. 7 All my enemies whisper together against me; they imagine the worst for me, saying, 8 "A vile disease has beset him; he will never get up from the place where he lies." 9 Even my close friend, whom I trusted, he who shared my bread, has lifted up his heel against me. Psalm 52 2 Your tongue plots destruction; it is like a sharpened razor, you who practice deceit. 3 You love evil rather than good, falsehood rather than speaking the truth. Selah 4 You love every harmful word, O you deceitful tongue! Psalm 59 12 For the sins of their mouths, for the words of their lips, let them be caught in their pride. For the curses and lies they utter, Psalm 64 2 Hide me from the conspiracy of the wicked, from that noisy crowd of evildoers. 3 They sharpen their tongues like swords and aim their words like deadly arrows. 4 They shoot from ambush at the innocent man; they shoot at him suddenly, without fear. 5 They encourage each other in evil plans, they talk about hiding their snares; they say, "Who will see them [1] ?" Psalm 69 12 Those who sit at the gate mock me, and I am the song of the drunkards. Psalm 102 8 All day long my enemies taunt me; those who rail against me use my name as a curse. Psalm 140 3 They make their tongues as sharp as a serpent's; the poison of vipers is on their lips. James 4 11Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. Romans 2 1You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Isaiah 29 20 The ruthless will vanish, the mockers will disappear, and all who have an eye for evil will be cut down- Interesting... You have a bit of reading to do, my friend. Fourty years, and *still* no answer, Sarah PS Dean, "full disclosure" on your part was unneccessary and unwelcome. I think everyone here is bright enough to deduce from the context of my posts that I am a transsexual woman. Perhaps I had my reasons for not stating it at face value. Perhaps my reason was that it has nothing to do with my argument. It is WRONG to speak insultingly about Rob's client, irrespective of whether another transsexual is in the room. Does that make sense? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean May" <deanmay@pianorebuilders.com> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:46 AM Subject: RE: OT -- Your professional conduct and "tuning 'it'" > It is always amusing to me when people who are hostile to the orthodox > Christian faith tell orthodox Christians how they should properly interpret > the Bible. > > That aside and in the interest of full disclosure, Sarah is a > "transgendered" person as he/she alluded to in his/her previous post. Now > his/her value system demands that I refer to him/her solely as a female, > else I am putting his/her life in danger. Call me old fashioned, but I have > trouble calling someone a female who has fathered children, even though > he/she admittedly makes a gorgeous looking female (thanks for the link to > your site, Sarah). > > Dean > Dean May cell 812.239.3359 > PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 > Terre Haute IN 47802 > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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