David, At 02:01 PM 8/25/2004, you wrote: >Horace, > >So you really think they reamed both sides of the teflon bushings in the >factory? I know that they did. > I can see the under pressure factory worker doing whatever would get it > out the door.... There were too many problems when they tried to pin more loosely, so the "standard" was quietly made to be whatever worked that did not make noise. > Uneven reaming is why teflon clicked...isn't it? Not necessarily; and, sadly, most often because of poor after-market service. Sorry, David, anything else is urban legend. Horace >David Ilvedson > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Horace Greeley" <hgreeley@stanford.edu> >To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> >Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:24 AM >Subject: Re: Teflon bushings: (was Re: Pinning on new flanges} > > >> >>David, >> >>At 12:10 AM 8/25/2004, you wrote: >>>Of course the fact that Steinway routinely reamed one side of the >>>bushing , i.e. one teflon bushing to get the correct friction...which >>>led to clicking in the not too distant future. I can't think of >>>anything great about teflon and its servicing compared to bushing cloth... >> >>Urban legend, perpetrated by frustrated technicians. >> >>Horace >> >> >> >>>David I. >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith McGavern" <kam544@gbronline.com> >>>To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> >>>Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:32 PM >>>Subject: Teflon bushings: (was Re: Pinning on new flanges} >>> >>> >>>>At 12:27 AM -0400 8/25/04, Sarah Fox wrote: >>>>>... The problem with Steinway's Teflon blunder was the >>>>>loosening of the Teflon in the wooden hole with humidity changes. ... >>>> >>>>Sarah, >>>> >>>>I have to intervene as a result of this comment. Maybe you will >>>>appreciate what I have to say, maybe not. >>>> >>>>For the record what I am about to say is an inner unfoldment that I >>>>came to solely after several years of working with repinning and/or >>>>replacing teflon bushings. >>>> >>>>If there is to be any blunder attributed to Steinway and the teflon >>>>bushing experience: >>>> >>>>1) it was only in that company's over evaluation of the abilities of >>>>the piano technicians in the field to understand the beauty of the >>>>teflon bushing in all its glory, >>>> >>>>2) to not forsee the unwillingness of piano technicians to invest in >>>>the necessary tools to work with them, >>>> >>>>3) and the capacity to truly understand the techniques as to how to >>>>properly replace and/or repin them. >>>> >>>>Those three things were, in my judgement, the main reasons for the >>>>eventual undoing of the teflon bushing, not humidity changes. >>>> >>>>Somebody mentioned it was ahead of its time. Hardly. In my opinion the >>>>general populace of piano technicians during that era were just unable >>>>to embrace it, so it got the bad mouth from those who never really gave >>>>it the time of day. >>>> >>>>Such is the way of some things. >>>> >>>>Keith >>>>-- >>>>Keith McGavern >>>>Registered Piano Technician >>>>Oklahoma Chapter 731 >>>>Piano Technicians Guild >>>>USA >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >>_______________________________________________ >>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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