SAT batteries 9 volt?

Richard Strang rstrang@pa.inter.net
Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:27:43 -0500


There are no formal instructions anywhere, as Sanderson would rather have
you send it in. He says there are other things to be checked when it's
battery changing time, but I live outside the U.S., so it's rather difficult
for me so send anything back for batterie's, etc.
  The battery pack in my SAT2 was a four cell nicad pack, 4.8 volts. I
simply cut off the leads of the old pack and soldered them to the leads of
the new pack. It's always a good idea to use some shrink tubing to cover up
the new joints.
   Nicad packs can be found all over, but I decided to use NiMH batteries,
so I bought a plastic battery holder, installed the NiMH, and soldered the
leads of the holder to the cut leads of the old battery pack. My SAT2 is as
good as new.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
Behalf Of gordon stelter
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:31 PM
To: Pianotech
Subject: RE: SAT batteries 9 volt?


Hi. Does someone have instructions for DIY, SATII
battery replacement? Care to share???
    Thump

--- Richard Strang <rstrang@pa.inter.net> wrote:
> Do yourselve a big favor and install NiMH instead of
> NiCads. They do not
> have any of the problems Nicads have, are lighter,
> have almost twice the
> capacity, and can use the same trickle charger. I
> replaced the Nicads that
> were in my SAT2 with NiMH and they work great. I
> bought a plastic battery
> holder that holds 4 batteries, and installed that in
> the tuner.
>
> Be careful about deep discharging Nicads. All the
> batteries in the pack are
> not identical in nature. If  one battery goes
> completely dead before the
> others, and you keep discharging it, it will be
> repolarized and damaged
> permanently.
>
> NiMHs are your best bet.
>
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
> Behalf Of Paul McCloud
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:40 AM
> To: 'Pianotech'
> Subject: RE: SAT batteries 9 volt?
>
>
> Diane:
> 	I have replaced my SAT I batteries with a 6 volt
> battery pack
> (NiCads) which is an exact replacement for the
> battery pack that
> Inventronics installed many years ago.  Originally,
> there was a sealed
> lead-acid battery, and the nicads were installed by
> them when the
> original battery went bad.  I don't know if they
> changed the charging
> circuit at that time, but I suspect that it was.
> 	Lately, I removed the internal battery pack and now
> use an
> external battery pack which I velcro'd to the back
> of the unit.  I
> change the individual batteries and charge them in a
> separate charger.
> This way, if one battery goes bad, I don't have to
> replace the whole
> battery pack.  Maybe this is overkill, but I got
> tired of replacing the
> battery pack.
> 	Nicad batteries need to be deep cycled.  They
> should be
> discharged as far as possible, and this way they
> will be conditioned to
> hold a long charge.  When we recharge the internal
> batteries of the SAT,
> they may not be discharged much, so they get used to
> having a short use
> before recharging.  Then if we try to use the SAT
> over a longer time,
> the batteries discharge more quickly.  I think you
> know what I mean.
> The low battery indication circuit on the SAT
> doesn't necessarily give
> the deepest cycle.  It only tells us that the
> battery voltage is
> insufficient to power the unit.  When I remove the
> batteries to recharge
> them in my charger, they will still run my AA
> flashlight for a good
> while.  This is after the low battery indicator has
> shown the need to
> charge them, and after the unit has shut down.
> 	The circuits in the SAT can run on 9 volts, or the
> 6 volts that
> the regular batteries supply.  I've seen 9 volt
> batteries installed on
> the back of a SAT so that when your batteries are
> dead, you just put the
> 9 volt in there, and it will get you through the day
> until you can
> charge them again.  Many electronic devices will run
> on a range of
> voltages.  Using 9 volts will work, but it takes
> more room, and more
> batteries, to get there.  And there's not a whole
> lot of room inside the
> SAT.
> 	I hope this helps.
> 	Paul McCloud
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
> Behalf Of DIANE HOFSTETTER
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:45 PM
> To: pianotech@ptg.org
> Subject: SAT batteries 9 volt?
>
> Our apprentice, using my Dad's old SAT 1, tried to
> replace the
> batteries.
> We searched the pianotech archives and he followed
> the instructions
> found,
> but still he gets "LoBat" message after charging it
> for four days.
>
> Now our question is,  when he used 4 AA batteries,
> that only gave him at
> the
> most 4.5 volts, but the charger we used with the SAT
> was a 9 volt
> charger.
>
> Are there some kind of industrial quality batteries
> that give 2.5volts
> in an
> AA size?
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
>
>
> Diane Hofstetter
>
>
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