wire coming out of beckett/take care

John Ross jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
Mon, 31 May 2004 22:44:09 -0300


Hi Joe,
I have been extremely lucky. I keep on meaning to wear glasses, but normally
only remember for complete restrings.

John M. Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe And Penny Goss" <imatunr@srvinet.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett/take care


>
> Hi John,
> Just a figure of speach mostly. <G> But one nice thing about wearing
glasses
> is that several times the end of the wire has been deflected the wild wire
> trying to return to its memory position striking my glasses instead of my
> eye.
> Joe Goss
> imatunr@srvinet.com
> www.mothergoosetools.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Formsma" <john@formsmapiano.com>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:36 PM
> Subject: RE: wire coming out of beckett
>
>
> > I'm curious - why are you guys losing blood? I've taken plenty of old
> > wire from Baldwin & WurliTzer tuning pins, and never have poked my
> > finger.
> >
> > I grab it with my small Vise grips and use the Force to command that
> > rascal out. Sometimes it's difficult, but my fingers don't get near the
> > wire.
> >
> > John Formsma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Joe And Penny Goss
> > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 6:27 PM
> > > To: Pianotech
> > > Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > > Made the same decision years ago after much loss of blood and
> > > noticing that
> > > if the becket were made with a sharp bend in the first place,
> > > it would not
> > > slip out. So when there is room I pre-form the bend prior to
> > > putting the
> > > wire in the tuning pin hole. I use a round shape plier from
> > > the '30s that
> > > has a mark where the .282" bend can be made. With this plier
> > > I get a very
> > > sharp 90% bend even on the largest wire.
> > > Joe Goss RPT
> > > imatunr@srvinet.com
> > > www.mothergoosetools.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Ross" <jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca>
> > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:02 PM
> > > Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have rethought putting the wire through the beckett and
> > > bending it. I am
> > > > not going to put in the extra bend.
> > > > I used to curse the Baldwins that had it. When a string broke, I was
> > > > guaranteed, to have my blood showing.
> > > > Thinking back to '75, when I started, I can only think of a
> > > couple of
> > > times
> > > > a beckett slipped, and that was on a new piano, where not
> > > enough length
> > > was
> > > > in the hole. If the wire is bent at right angles, and goes
> > > fully through
> > > the
> > > > hole, I have never had one slip.
> > > > I think the reason that Baldwin had for doing it, was that
> > > the wires were
> > > > pre-cut, so it was a manufacturing choice for speed, not to
> > > make sure it
> > > > didn't slip.
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > John M. Ross
> > > > Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> > > > jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman@cox.net>
> > > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:52 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Ron, So with that logical reasoning, would you not add
> > > the double to
> > > the
> > > > > >Baldwin?
> > > > > >Joe Goss
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Joe,
> > > > > I would anyway, for the other reasons, and take my chances. The
> > > percentage
> > > > > of replaced broken strings that already have the "lock"
> > > bend is low, so
> > > > > it's an acceptable risk. I'm still ahead in the long run.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron N
> > > > >
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