steinway over hardened hammer

[David Love]

While I agree that an overneedled hammer will not respond in the same way,
you can usually tap some reserve out of a tensioned hammer by needling down
near the staple--battery needling, I think Andre O. refers to it. I must
say that I have never seen a hammer such as a Renner or Abel hammer, one
that is designed to be voiced with needles rather than lacquer, and that
has been lacquered, respond by getting louder or brighter when needling in
the shoulder. The application of lacquer on these types of hammers usually
ruins them. Nor have I seen a lacquered hammer (one that is designed to be
lacquered) get brighter or louder with needling. If you want that type of
hammer to get louder, you have to add more juice (or mass). 
 
David Love
davidlovepianos@earthlink.net


> [Original Message]
> From: Horace Greeley <hgreeley@stanford.edu>
> To: <davidlovepianos@earthlink.net>; Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Date: 5/5/2004 8:11:14 PM
> Subject: RE: steinway over hardened hammer
>
>
> Quoting David Love <davidlovepianos@earthlink.net>:
>
> > Needling up is not possible on a lacquered hammer. 
>
> Not necessarily.  As with all "rules", there are exceptions which define 
> them.  Much depends on the state (type, shape, etc) of the hammer before
it 
> is hardened; and, much depends on what is used as a hardener and how.
>
> > On a tensioned
> > hammer,
> > needling the shoulders releases tension toward the crown and the tone
> > will
> > get brighter.
>
> Until the hammer is killed by overneedling.
>
> Horace
>
>
>
> > 
> > David Love
> > davidlovepianos@earthlink.net
> > 
> > 
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: John M. Formsma <john@formsmapiano.com>
> > > To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Date: 5/5/2004 6:59:47 PM
> > > Subject: RE: steinway over hardened hammer
> > >
> > > Andre,
> > >
> > > Are you talking about how judicious needling will increase the volume
> > by
> > > allowing the tone to fully develop?
> > >
> > > John Formsma
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ever heard of needling up?
> > > >
> > > > friendly greetings
> > > > from
> > > > André Oorebeek
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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