?? Voice ??

[Joe And Penny Goss]

Yes
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elwood Doss, Jr." <edoss@utm.edu>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: ?? Voice ??


> Hey Joe,
> Are you going to have this tool for sale at the Nashville Convention?
> Joy!
> Elwood
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe And Penny Goss" <imatunr@srvinet.com>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 9:03 AM
> Subject: Re: ?? Voice ??
>
>
> > Hi Richard and Barbara, You are correct. I am really thinking of quicker
> > changes in the hammer and home service, not the final voicing
necessarily.
> > The tool that I have developed is at this page on my site.
> > http://mothergoosetools.com/other_tools/voicing_pliers.shtml
> > Joe Goss
> > imatunr@srvinet.com
> > www.mothergoosetools.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 3:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: ?? Voice ??
> >
> >
> > > Barbara Richmond wrote:
> > >
> > > >Joe,
> > > >
> > > >Ok, I'll be brave.  Pliers (vise grips) were sort of popular some
years
> > > >back, but it seems they are politically incorrect these days.  I
> learned
> > to
> > > >use them to soften up really hard shoulders (not lacquered ones!) to
> make
> > > >needling possible where sustain was lacking.  Using vise-grips would
> > cause
> > > >cupping on the shoulder and then next, one would needle enough to
> remove
> > the
> > > >cupping.  Worked great to open up the sound on certain pianos.  I
won't
> > > >mention any names, but I learned it from factory tech reps--so
somebody
> > > >thought it was OK back then.  ;-)   Aw heck, things go in and out of
> > > >fashion, except perhaps for orange shag carpeting and flocked
> wallpaper.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I think we are talking about two different levels of voicing here.
You
> > > have your <<standard do what it takes to make a so and so piano
> > > useable>> type of job... and you have your <<critical concert top
level
> > > for the most discerning of pianists>>  type of situation.
> > >
> > > For the later we are not just talking about getting them soft
enough...
> > > or insuring a bit of sustain.   It should be entirely unecessarry to
> > > have to resort to any draconian measures for these kinds of jobs.
> > > Whether you are using soft hammers that require hardner to acheive any
> > > semblence of tone, or tensioned hammers that need needling to bring
out
> > > the tone.
> > >
> > >
> > > >As with any voicing method (and there are a mess of them), the secret
> is
> > to
> > > >proceed with caution, since hammers can get destroyed by overdoing
> > anything.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Yep.
> > >
> > > RicB
> > >
> > > >Barbara Richmond, RPT
> > > >Peoria, IL Chapter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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