?? Voice ??

Elwood Doss, Jr. edoss@utm.edu
Fri, 7 May 2004 09:28:28 -0500


Hey Joe,
Are you going to have this tool for sale at the Nashville Convention?
Joy!
Elwood
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe And Penny Goss" <imatunr@srvinet.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: ?? Voice ??


> Hi Richard and Barbara, You are correct. I am really thinking of quicker
> changes in the hammer and home service, not the final voicing necessarily.
> The tool that I have developed is at this page on my site.
> http://mothergoosetools.com/other_tools/voicing_pliers.shtml
> Joe Goss
> imatunr@srvinet.com
> www.mothergoosetools.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 3:48 AM
> Subject: Re: ?? Voice ??
>
>
> > Barbara Richmond wrote:
> >
> > >Joe,
> > >
> > >Ok, I'll be brave.  Pliers (vise grips) were sort of popular some years
> > >back, but it seems they are politically incorrect these days.  I
learned
> to
> > >use them to soften up really hard shoulders (not lacquered ones!) to
make
> > >needling possible where sustain was lacking.  Using vise-grips would
> cause
> > >cupping on the shoulder and then next, one would needle enough to
remove
> the
> > >cupping.  Worked great to open up the sound on certain pianos.  I won't
> > >mention any names, but I learned it from factory tech reps--so somebody
> > >thought it was OK back then.  ;-)   Aw heck, things go in and out of
> > >fashion, except perhaps for orange shag carpeting and flocked
wallpaper.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I think we are talking about two different levels of voicing here.  You
> > have your <<standard do what it takes to make a so and so piano
> > useable>> type of job... and you have your <<critical concert top level
> > for the most discerning of pianists>>  type of situation.
> >
> > For the later we are not just talking about getting them soft enough...
> > or insuring a bit of sustain.   It should be entirely unecessarry to
> > have to resort to any draconian measures for these kinds of jobs.
> > Whether you are using soft hammers that require hardner to acheive any
> > semblence of tone, or tensioned hammers that need needling to bring out
> > the tone.
> >
> >
> > >As with any voicing method (and there are a mess of them), the secret
is
> to
> > >proceed with caution, since hammers can get destroyed by overdoing
> anything.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Yep.
> >
> > RicB
> >
> > >Barbara Richmond, RPT
> > >Peoria, IL Chapter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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