Hi Richard and Barbara, You are correct. I am really thinking of quicker changes in the hammer and home service, not the final voicing necessarily. The tool that I have developed is at this page on my site. http://mothergoosetools.com/other_tools/voicing_pliers.shtml Joe Goss imatunr@srvinet.com www.mothergoosetools.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 3:48 AM Subject: Re: ?? Voice ?? > Barbara Richmond wrote: > > >Joe, > > > >Ok, I'll be brave. Pliers (vise grips) were sort of popular some years > >back, but it seems they are politically incorrect these days. I learned to > >use them to soften up really hard shoulders (not lacquered ones!) to make > >needling possible where sustain was lacking. Using vise-grips would cause > >cupping on the shoulder and then next, one would needle enough to remove the > >cupping. Worked great to open up the sound on certain pianos. I won't > >mention any names, but I learned it from factory tech reps--so somebody > >thought it was OK back then. ;-) Aw heck, things go in and out of > >fashion, except perhaps for orange shag carpeting and flocked wallpaper. > > > > > > > I think we are talking about two different levels of voicing here. You > have your <<standard do what it takes to make a so and so piano > useable>> type of job... and you have your <<critical concert top level > for the most discerning of pianists>> type of situation. > > For the later we are not just talking about getting them soft enough... > or insuring a bit of sustain. It should be entirely unecessarry to > have to resort to any draconian measures for these kinds of jobs. > Whether you are using soft hammers that require hardner to acheive any > semblence of tone, or tensioned hammers that need needling to bring out > the tone. > > > >As with any voicing method (and there are a mess of them), the secret is to > >proceed with caution, since hammers can get destroyed by overdoing anything. > > > > > > > Yep. > > RicB > > >Barbara Richmond, RPT > >Peoria, IL Chapter > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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