This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Yes, Barbara, but how else are you going to get the experience you need to go out and tune those ideal 8:4 and 10:5 low bass octaves in the Lester? Of course, if the Steinway grand isn't available to practice on--in preparation to tuning that Betsy (Winter, Stark, Crappiola, or Fill-in-your-own-blank-here), one can always get a washtub and broom handle bass to practice on ... And to all those who rise to the defense of junk pianos, I say, tune 'em, replace their elbows and other various body parts, make some money, do your best for the client, don't insult people, BUT BUT BUT don't get all bothered that we laugh at or blow off steam about these clunkers. For Heaven's sake, the pianos do NOT have feelings, (sorry if that is disappointing news to anyone), they are just mass-produced, cheap, low-end, NOT serious, pieces of furniture that make a vaguely piano-like sound, sometimes, sort of. My theory: Almost all pianos, over the years, have been purchased by people who were, understandably, completely ignorant about piano tone and playability, etc. Almost all choices were based EXCLUSIVELY on price, brand recognition (or impressive sounding names), and the pretty cabinets. Add totally disreputable dealers--not all, but way to many--to that formula. Then add a dash of snobbiness and whoppingly, sticker-shockingly prices from premium brand manufacturers. Oh, and throw in the simple reality that piano teachers and technicians generally--for perfectly sound reasons--tap dance all around any request for honest evaluations of instruments. And finally, dismally, we can reflect on the significant percentage of piano teachers who, counter to all logic and reason, teach on severely out-of-tune and questionable pianos. Well, now ... Game of darts, anyone? I'll paste a target on my pompous protruding posterior and await your slings and arrows. All in fun, but seriously ... Alan R. Barnard Dismantling and Repinning an Acrosonic Action in Salem, MO -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Richmond [mailto:piano57@flash.net] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:41 PM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Betsy Ross Spinet Well, it *could* be that budding musicians would have been turned off, but if there is really that drive or passion to play, even a spinet in reasonable repair would do--for a while, anyway. No, it's not ideal, but talent combined with the passion to play is hard to stop. Of course, there's always the claim, "Our piano sounds different than the piano teacher's piano!" I laugh at that now, not only because I'm a tech and know there can be lots of reasons for the difference in sound, but also because we're the ones with the Steinway grand and the teacher has the Yamaha console........(sort of reminds me of coming off of maternity leave and practicing tuning my Steinway to get ready to go out and tune a Kimball spinet.) Barbara Richmond, RPT ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:RptBob1@aol.com"RptBob1@aol.com To: HYPERLINK "mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"pianotech@ptg.org Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Betsy Ross Spinet In a message dated 5/20/2004 8:07:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, HYPERLINK "mailto:hoffsoco@martin.luther.edu"hoffsoco@martin.luther.edu writes: this list over the years. Well deserved, too. I find it hard to say that they have no redeeming value if they are a springboard to a musical career, or even if they only offer the opportunity to have live music in the home We also have NO idea on how many budding, future musicians were totally turned off by their experiences with these "pianos". So let's also consider this in the equation. Bob Bergantino --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 5/18/2004 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/89/03/aa/29/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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