wire coming out of beckett

[Richard Brekne]

Strange indeed if your bend leave plenty of wire to go through the hole. 
Actually.. unless the holes are over large and not well drilled... 
slanted for example... I dont see how wire can slip out of a pin when 
you have the wire all the way through the hole and 3-4 complete tight coils.

Tight coils ... :)... As long as that is up you might use this piano to 
do a little test for us...   Since these few pins seem to slip the wire 
easily.... see if the wire slips even more easily with  loose coils visa 
vi tight ones.  Might shed some light on a discussion we had a while back.

I'd try changing a tuning pin or two and see if that helps as a first 
reaction I think.

Cheers
RicB




Mike Bratcher wrote:

> Hi List,
>  
> I tuned a piano today.  Very nice Kawai console, about 17 yrs old.  It 
> looks like it's 2 years old.  Piano is up to pitch.  Nothing out of 
> the ordinary.  I tuned up to f#7 and broke that string.  I could 
> almost "tell" it was going to break.  The pitch wasn't changing and 
> the pin got harder to turn.  But, I wasn't focusing on that, so it broke.
>  
> Now comes the strange part.  I replaced the string.  As I was bringing 
> it up to tension, it broke.  That's a first for me.  Let me start off 
> by saying I think I'm a pretty good stringer.  Becketts are always 
> tight in the pin, coils are perfect, the right number of coils and pin 
> height is all perfect.  Ok....maybe I wasn't paying close enough 
> attention when this string broke.  String number 2 (or three however 
> you look at it)  put it on...again...perfect.  Finished tuning the 
> piano.  Went back to touch-up tune the new strings and wow ....they 
> dropped in pitch.  Ok...retune them.  retune them...retune 
> them...retune them....HEY!  Something's going on here.  I stopped and 
> tuned just one string.  As I tune, I bring it up to pitch, but now I 
> keep playing the note with out turning the pin.  I can easily hear the 
> pitch dropping.  I retune and the same thing.  I look at the pin, and 
> the beckett is clearly slipping out.  Finally the whole thing pops 
> out.  Damn...Next string I made sure there was wire poking out the 
> other side.  Finished tuning it up and noticed the pitch was dropping 
> on this new string too...Man how can this happen?
>  
> I let the customer know there may be a problem here in the future, as 
> I'm getting frustrated at this point.  Pitch was still dropping when I 
> left.  I'm thinking I may need to replace the tuning pin.  I know I 
> could just put the wire through farther and bend it over like Baldwin 
> does on their vertical pianos.
>  
> This shouldn't be happening right?  Like I said...I think I can string 
> well enough, that that isn't the problem. 
>  
> Any thoughts
>  
> Mike Bratcher