wire coming out of beckett

[John Ross]

Speaking of coils.
How many are you using?
Increase the number of coils, it should hold then.

John M. Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett


> Strange indeed if your bend leave plenty of wire to go through the hole.
> Actually.. unless the holes are over large and not well drilled...
> slanted for example... I dont see how wire can slip out of a pin when
> you have the wire all the way through the hole and 3-4 complete tight
coils.
>
> Tight coils ... :)... As long as that is up you might use this piano to
> do a little test for us...   Since these few pins seem to slip the wire
> easily.... see if the wire slips even more easily with  loose coils visa
> vi tight ones.  Might shed some light on a discussion we had a while back.
>
> I'd try changing a tuning pin or two and see if that helps as a first
> reaction I think.
>
> Cheers
> RicB
>
>
>
>
> Mike Bratcher wrote:
>
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I tuned a piano today.  Very nice Kawai console, about 17 yrs old.  It
> > looks like it's 2 years old.  Piano is up to pitch.  Nothing out of
> > the ordinary.  I tuned up to f#7 and broke that string.  I could
> > almost "tell" it was going to break.  The pitch wasn't changing and
> > the pin got harder to turn.  But, I wasn't focusing on that, so it
broke.
> >
> > Now comes the strange part.  I replaced the string.  As I was bringing
> > it up to tension, it broke.  That's a first for me.  Let me start off
> > by saying I think I'm a pretty good stringer.  Becketts are always
> > tight in the pin, coils are perfect, the right number of coils and pin
> > height is all perfect.  Ok....maybe I wasn't paying close enough
> > attention when this string broke.  String number 2 (or three however
> > you look at it)  put it on...again...perfect.  Finished tuning the
> > piano.  Went back to touch-up tune the new strings and wow ....they
> > dropped in pitch.  Ok...retune them.  retune them...retune
> > them...retune them....HEY!  Something's going on here.  I stopped and
> > tuned just one string.  As I tune, I bring it up to pitch, but now I
> > keep playing the note with out turning the pin.  I can easily hear the
> > pitch dropping.  I retune and the same thing.  I look at the pin, and
> > the beckett is clearly slipping out.  Finally the whole thing pops
> > out.  Damn...Next string I made sure there was wire poking out the
> > other side.  Finished tuning it up and noticed the pitch was dropping
> > on this new string too...Man how can this happen?
> >
> > I let the customer know there may be a problem here in the future, as
> > I'm getting frustrated at this point.  Pitch was still dropping when I
> > left.  I'm thinking I may need to replace the tuning pin.  I know I
> > could just put the wire through farther and bend it over like Baldwin
> > does on their vertical pianos.
> >
> > This shouldn't be happening right?  Like I said...I think I can string
> > well enough, that that isn't the problem.
> >
> > Any thoughts
> >
> > Mike Bratcher
>
>
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