The "Jolly Loop" (Modified by Kent Swafford)

[Michael Gamble]

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Hello Roger J and List.=20
These "Jolly loops" are exactly as was used by Broadwood. I call them =
the Broadwood Hitch-pin Loop. Because they are so very secure and have =
very little movement from new I always use this style of loop when =
restringing the metals. So far as the covereds are concerned I remain =
happy with the standard twisted loop as supplied by the bass string =
maker.
Regards from sunny but cold Sussex-on-Sea
Michael G.(UK)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Roger Jolly=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:27 PM
  Subject: RE: The "Jolly Loop" (Modified by Kent Swafford)


  Hi Dean,
                   James in now offering the Jolly loops, there is an =
extra charge. the knot is only about 7mm long ,average. You will have to =
measure the diameter of the hitch pin, and he will supply precision =
loops.  The stretch of the knot is way less than the traditional English =
loop. Some pianos, have two hitch pin diameters in the bass.

  We have field tested this system over several years. Tuning stability =
caused by knot creep is significantly superior.

  Regards Roger



  At 06:20 AM 4/8/2005, you wrote:


    I love Arledge strings. Most of my work is done on middle of the =
road to
    low end pianos and they sound great. Much more consistent than I was
    getting from Mapes. When I used Mapes I would get sections that did =
not
    sound good. Was it voicing, dead area of the soundboard or bad =
strings?
    Who knows. Once I asked them to remake a section which they did and =
I
    got some improvement. I've never had to do that with Arledge.

    At the Indy convention last October Del spoke about reducing the =
size of
    the loops and getting them up off the plate to add flexibility in =
the
    backscale. Attached is a link to a picture of a Walters grand that =
was
    there showing off an unusual hitch pin Del likes to use.

    The next set of strings I ordered from Arledge I tried to get the
    shorter loop and they said they really couldn't do it. Has that =
changed?
    I want a set with the "Jolly" loops. ;-)

    I haven't tried the unusual pins. But I did try sticking a thin =
washer
    under the loops of one set to get the strings off the plate. It =
worked.
    Hard to tell how much improvement it actually made.

    Dean

    Photo at:

    http://tinyurl.com/62yu8

    Direct ptg.org URL:

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https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/ab/cb/d5/06/DSCF6402.JPG=20

    -----Original Message-----
    From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [ mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] =
On
    Behalf Of Roger Jolly
    Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:26 PM
    To: files@ptg.org
    Subject: Re: The "Jolly Loop" (Modified by Kent Swafford)


    At 08:46 PM 4/7/2005, you wrote:


      I did try a set of Arledge strings with the =13Jolly Loop=14.  S&S =
model
      O.  While the piano also had a new soundboard with a modified bass
      bridge which shortened the cantilever and extended the backscale a
      bit, not to mention recalculated bass scale (thank you Del =
Fandrich),


      the bass quality on this instrument was exceptional.
       =20


      Hi David,
                        Including photo to answer the curious.  =
Theoretical

    increase in back scale length, to improve bass bridge response.

      Regards Roger



    Photo at:

    http://tinyurl.com/4ydys

    Direct ptg.org URL:

    https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/0b/0d/04/aa/
    Jollybassloop.JPG

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