John, You obviously missed the sweetness with which I wrote that...;--] It was info for a newbie and lately we have several on list who could possibly benefit from it. I suggest you try not to make something out of nothing...that's what breeds ill-will on the list. David Ilvedson ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: John Ross <jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca> To: <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>, Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:40:00 -0300 Subject: Re: Difficulty Hearing Beats While Setting Temperament >Picky, picky. >You know what she meant. >It could be her spell checker wasn't on. >You could have corrected her direct, instead of on the list. >John M. Ross >Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada >jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> >To: <mags@magsmusic.net>; <pianotech@ptg.org> >Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 4:28 PM >Subject: Re: Difficulty Hearing Beats While Setting Temperament >> FYI it's "spinet" >> >> David I. >> >> >> >> ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- >> From: Maggie Jusiel <mags@magsmusic.net> >> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> >> Received: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 03:11:14 +1200 (NZST) >> Subject: Re: Difficulty Hearing Beats While Setting Temperament >> >> >>>I haven't read the other responses you got, but wanted to mention that if >>>it's a spinnet, change pianos. I practiced on spinnets when I first >>>started, and it was more of a handicap than a help. When I got to >>>practice on Steinways, Kawais, etc., I could hear the beats quite clearly, >>>and was able to hear the spinnet later. Of course, it was my difficulty >>>with spinnets that led me to get an ETD, which I still love having. ;) >> >>>-mags >> >> >>>> I have been trying to set the temperament on my piano and am having >>>> trouble hearing the correct beat rates of the intervals. The problem is >>>> that the beats are so weak they are hardly perceptible. I have strip >>>> muted >>>> the piano and was able to tune A49 on the piano to the A440 tuning fork >>>> by >>>> comparing the beat rate of the note and the fork with F21. I am now >>>> trying >>>> to tune the other notes within the temperament octave and get the beat >>>> rates of the F-A, A-C#, C#-F and F-A to gradually increase from 7 bps to >>>> 14 bps, but they are very difficult to hear. What can be done to hear >>>> the >>>> beats more clearly? I have been studying tuning for several months now, >>>> but the beats of the intervals are still difficult to hear. I don't have >>>> much trouble with unisons as I can hear the beats more distinctly, and >>>> the >>>> improvement in the quality of the note when I reach the pure state is >>>> very >>>> noticeable. >>>> >>>> I have an SAT III tuning device that enables me to tune the piano very >>>> well, and to check my aural tuning, but I want to be able to tune the >>>> piano completely by ear so that I can eventually pass the PTG >>>> examinations. Thank you for your help. >>>> >>>> Robert Finley >> >> >>>Maggie Jusiel >>>Piano Tuner >>>Winds & Strings Teacher >>>PO Box 1234 >>>Athens, WV 24712-1234 >>>(304)952-8615 >>><mags@magsmusic.net> >>><http://www.magsmusic.net> >> >> >>><http://www.casparwicky.net/quotepage.html> >> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >>
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