loose tuning pins

[Nichols]

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At 02:05 PM 8/14/2005 -0300, you wrote:
>I have seen instances, where something has been added that causes the wood 
>to get worse.
>I was told that it was the glycol product. So I never recommend the 
>application of a glycol product, thinking, better safe than sorry.
>John M. Ross
>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
><mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca>jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca

Understood. I've heard stories about all the chemical treatments. The only 
one I've seen that actually made the condition worse was a miss-applied 
"Pin-Tite". Even then, I was only assuming that the pin torque was worse 
than originally encountered, due to lack of penetration. I'm a second 
generation tech that learned the use of Garfields about 30 years ago. When 
applied correctly, it always improves the torque, without jumpiness. In 
real loose blocks, I may have to replace a few pins, but very rarely. I've 
also used super-thin solutions of the glycol-type solution to "even-out" 
the feel of a piano that has floaters and jumpies and poppers and what-not. 
Helps out quite a bit.
Your mileage may vary......

Later,
Guy


>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:nicho@zianet.com>Nichols
>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>Pianotech
>Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:52 PM
>Subject: Re: loose tuning pins
>
>David,
>    What is your climate like? CA (superglue) works well in wet climates, 
> Garfields (glycol) works well in dry climates. Epoxy is an option when 
> there are major cracks in the block. All are cheaper than block 
> replacement or oversize pins.
>
>Good Luck,
>Guy Nichols, RPT
>Ft. Stinkin' Desert, NM
>
>
>
>At 10:43 AM 8/14/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>I am still new at tuning and repairing pianos.  I have Fischer upright 
>>that was given to me.  I am attempting to get it  back into some sort of 
>>playable condition and gain experience at the same time.  All the tuning 
>>pins are loose and will not hold a tune.  What is the best way to solve 
>>this problem short of replacing the pin block?
>>
>>Thanks
>>David

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