CA Glue

[Dean May]

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I like the Kwick Kleen brand, www.kwickkleen.com
<http://www.kwickkleen.com/> , (888) 222-9767. It is always fresh and
their shipping is quick. 
 
Susan is RIGHT! (not to be confused with conservative ;-) ) 2 oz of glue
is plenty to do 98% of the pianos. I usually use 1.5 oz. and I really
like the hypo oilers. They give excellent control and placement exactly
where I want the glue.  With 2 oz or less you don't have to worry too
much about the glue running places you don't want it. I have NEVER had
any run into the action cavity but I still always take the action out
(unless it is a spot treatment). I charge 3 times my tuning rate and
offer an 8 year warranty. People are happy to pay that little to save
their piano and buy peace of mind. 
 
On the glue in the eye thing, read the MSDS sheets. As I recall, it says
not to panic. CA glue polymerizes on contact with water. The epidermal
cells in the eye will slough off within a day or two where the glue sets
up, no surgery required. I remember a newspaper article where an abused
child with eyelids superglued shut underwent surgery to open them back
up. If they'd only read the MSDS sheets. 
 
The gloves are a good idea. Wally World sells a whole box of latex like
vinyl gloves in the paint department for cheap. 
 
Dean
Dean May             cell 812.239.3359
PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272
Terre Haute IN  47802
 
-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
Behalf Of Alan Barnard
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:25 AM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: CA Glue
 
You just want CA that is very-thin. Hobby stores may have it or look on
the web and find "super thin" or some such. Some use hypos to put it in
but I like a closed system with less chance for leaking or squirtage
(fun new word, I made it up). Schaff's hypo oiler, No. 189, page 45,
works well. The larger one, No. 184, works too but is a little harder to
control the flow.
 
Safety hints from bad experience:
 
Where safety goggles. A tiny drop in the eye is a trip to the emergency
room and bad news.
 
Have acetone or acetone-based nail polish and a rag within easy reach of
your work.
 
Use a small desk-type electric fan to blow the fumes anywhere except in
your face. Open windows. Do this work when the customer is not home, if
possible, or explain that the fumes are nasty but they are only in the
liquid carrier of the CA and it will have no odor at all when it is
cured.
 
If titlting an upright, spread a dropcloth under and beyond the area in
which you are working, then spread newspapers on the drop cloth. This
stuff can drip and it can run along surfaces and fall off some distance
from the pin you are applying it to. Ruining someone's carpet or floor
will ruin your day! If not tilting, just spot treating a few pins, be
patient: Let each drop wick in before applying more and have a rag right
at the spot to catch runoff.
 
Certain types of cloth I've used--especially a red shop towel I bought
at Walmart--start smoking when you get CA on it. I've never had one
burst into flames, but there was a definite exothermic chemical reaction
going on there.
 
If doing a grand, the stuff WILL drip onto the action. You must cover it
or, more safe, remove it. If you remove it, put some newspaper on the
key bed, anyway.
 
Alan Barnard
Salem, Missouri
 
(Msg may be a duplicate, first didn't seem to go through. Sorry if it is
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