CA glue + Elmers for Ivories

[Carl Meyer]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kent Swafford" <kswafford@earthlink.net>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: CA glue + Elmers for Ivories


> "You couldn't get them off with Blasting Powder"? Actually Joe, based  on 
> your comments, I'd be inclined to try this method.   8^)
>
> Anyone care to write up exactly how they have used a CA/wood glue 
> combination to re-glue real ivories? Sounds like it could be a good  field 
> repair; or at least, better than what I have been using.
>
> Kent
>
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> On Aug 23, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Joe Garrett wrote:
>
>> Frances,
>> Don't understand "about the cat"??
>> As for the ones reglued with Susan's magical elixir....You couldn't  get 
>> them off with Blasting Powder!!! Heat? NOpe! Moisture? NOpe!  Solvents? 
>> NO..Hell NO! BTW, the stuff sticks much better to the  WOOD than the 
>> Ivory. BUT, it still sticks extremely hard to the  Ivory. Hence, no 
>> Salvagable Ivory. As I said, what a waste!!! :-(

Joe, I think your blasting powder has deteriated.  You remind me of the guy 
who stood up at a prayer meeting and confessed  "I've shed barrels and 
barrels of tears over my bad habit of eggazerating everything"

Pvc-e works good for plastic, but for ivory it would have to be clamped 
since the water base will warp the key top.  I use gap filling or extra 
thick ca on the key in a rectangle bead and lick "yum yum" the bottom of the 
ivory and press it on.  Works great, looks bad but I hear my Mother calling 
me and I wanna get out of there.  Replacing ivory is problematic since you 
need a replacement that is from the same note and is the same dimention and 
color.  That's why Yvonne Ashmore charges $35 to do each key.  We're fresh 
out of elephants so I'm getting used to plastic.

Regards

Carl Meyer PTG assoc
Santa Clara, Ca.




>> Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
>> Captain, Tool Police
>> Squares R I
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: FRANCES HELMS
>> To: joegarrett@earthlink.net ; pianotech@ptg.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 1:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: CA glue + Elmers for Ivories
>>
>> Just out of curiousity...yeah, I know about the cat...what exactly  was 
>> the effect on the "re-glued" ivories?
>> Fran Helms,
>> piano technician
>> Topeka, KS
>>
>> >>> "Joe Garrett" <joegarrett@earthlink.net> 8/23/2005 1:54 PM >>>
>> I know Ssssssn is gunna have a cow, but I just gotta say it. Please 
>> don't use the CA/Elmers on replacing Ivories!!! PLEASE!!!!???? I'm  in 
>> the process of doing a re-whatever on a set of  European Upright  Keys. 
>> 1/2 of the keys still have/had beautiful, thick Ivory, that  could be 
>> salvaged. Several had been "re-glued" with that damned  concoction! There 
>> was no way in hell, those could be salvaged!!  What a damned waste!! 
>> grrrrr!
>> O.K. I'll get off my soapbox.
>> Regards,
>> Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
>> Captain, Tool Police
>> Squares R I
>>
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