---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Geoff, That would work. I'm used to Tunelab, which shows a different spike for each string, but what you're suggesting is the same idea. Tune one of the strings to pitch, then bring it's two neighbors up and show the customer where it ends up. Dave In a message dated 12/20/2005 1:45:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, thetuner@ivories52.com writes: Dave -- I like the bicycle analogy. May not work on some of those older folks but it gives me fuel to think about. I also like the show-n-tell approach. I'm using PRCT. Is the idea to stop the rotation on, say, the right string, then mute that right string and, say, the left string and stop the rotation on the middle string and then go back and look at how much rotation is now showing on that original right string? -- Geoff -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Piannaman@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:30 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: How to explain a pitch adjustment Geoff, I tell the customer that every time you pull a string beyond a few cents, the neighboring string is affected. It's easy to give a graphic display of this if you have an ETD. I will sometimes use a bicycle wheel analogy, pointing out that each time you tighten or loosen one spoke, other spokes AND the rim are affected. Most of the time I just say, "M'am, the piano's really out of tune. IN order for me to get it to pitch, I'll have to tune it twice (or three times, as the case may be). The first tuning is a coarse tuning, meant to get the piano close enough to pitch so that it can be fine-tuned." I then point out the wear-and-tear on ears and body that adjusting the pitch can cause. If the customer has their piano tuned per my recommendation, I charge nothing for a pitch adjustment. When customers neglect their pianos, they should pay, not the tuner! Dave Stahl In a message dated 12/20/2005 12:45:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, thetuner@ivories52.com writes: Greetings all -- Many pianos need a pitch adjustment prior to tuning. Usually because it hasn't been touched in five years. Therefore, like many of you I'm sure, I frequently find myself having to explain to customers what a pitch adjustment is, and why their piano needs one prior to tuning. I have found that car analogies often help when explaining things but I have not been able to come up with one that would help with a pitch adjustment. Even after explaining, as simply as I know how, the relationship of the incredible string tension across the plate and why it needs to be equalized before a fine tuning will hold, I often feel like I'm coming off trying to sell them something bogus. How do you people explain pitch adjustments to your customers whose piano needs it so that they not only understand what it is but why it's important that their piano gets one prior to tuning? -- Geoff Sykes -- Assoc. Los Angeles Dave Stahl Dave Stahl Piano Service 650-224-3560 _http://dstahlpiano.net/_ (http://www.dstahlpiano.net/) ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20/54/56/51/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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