Strip mutes was . . Re: Moving from Uprights to Grands

[Jim]

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I agree about the felt mute . . tried the rubber strip and found it to =
be a pain in the., . . . .
JIm
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  Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:19 AM
  Subject: Re: Strip mutes was . . Re: Moving from Uprights to Grands


              Ric
      Frankly the idea that a good tuner can't get good results when =
using a temp strip is Hogwash. It sound like your saying something =
similar.=20
    I've been using complete strip muting for 32 years & I beleive the =
stability of my work speaks for itself. I know many others who do as =
well & with the finest results you can imagine
    I will say that the material used for muting can have an enormous =
impact on the stability. Rule no. 1....Do not use supply house temp =
strips.
   I use the thick green action cloth for years . It's stripped to about =
1/2 to 5/8 wide. I use the one that gets thinnest  from use in the top =
treble ,the next most worn one in the capo section & the thickest newest =
one in the middle & bass. Using this cloth spreads the strings to a bare =
minimum with effeicient damping.
    The efficiency of the whole tuning system is also less tedious for =
me than always moving hands & mutes ... but that's me.
    If using one mute works well for you then this is great. It's the =
results that count. but enough of the myth that strip muting can't give =
excellent results.
     Dale


      Hi, Susan and Michael et al,
      The whole business of strip muting for either the temperament =
octave or even into the further reaches of the piano has always been =
controversial here in UK.  Probably like Michael I was trained very =
traditionally, to discard the strip mute quite early on and rely on =
one's ear for laying the temperament with just two wedges.  It has =
always been looked down upon in the profession here if a tuner still has =
to use a temperament strip, almost suggesting that his/her ear is not =
reliable enough to do without it.  The analogy being a baby's walking =
frame I suppose!   Because  of this early influence I can actually feel =
'ashamed' if I resort to using  a strip or rubber gang mute on a =
difficult piano. Do i need psychoanalysis?  However, I could actually =
argue pretty stongly in favour of using them with very small grands and =
uprights where inharmonicity is so pronounced that setting an acceptable =
temperament can take more than one pass, and using this aid would be =
quicker.  When this topic comes under discussion over here it is =
generally argued that the temperament is not exactly the same when you =
return to complete the unisons and that the whole excercise can be more =
time consuming.
      It would be interesting to know what proportion of tuners is 'mute =
free'
      Ric


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