Moving from Uprights to Grands

[Richard Gullion]

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David
Excuse me but are you speaking tongue in cheek, or is fine tuning within a cent or 2...do you mean unisons, intervals octaves ??? How does one tune with two mutes. [Inquring mind]

David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I used a temp strip for years but once I got into tuning with an ETD, I've gone to 2 mutes.   Any appreciable tension change, mute free or not means a second pass.  That's a given right?  "Fine Tuning" means the tension is withing a cent or 2.   I'd be interested in knowing if temp strip tuners are stripping off the entire piano before proceeding?  

David I.





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Received: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:06:41 EDT
Subject: Re: Moving from Uprights to Grands

Hi, Susan and Michael et al,
The whole business of strip muting for either the temperament octave or even into the further reaches of the piano has alway been controversial here in UK.  Probably like Michael I was trained very traditionally, to discard the strip mute quite early on and rely on one's ear for laying the temperament with just two wedges.  It has always been looked down upon in the profession here if a tuner still has to use a temperament strip, almost suggesting that his/her ear is not reliable enough to do without it.  The analogy being a baby's walking frame I suppose!   Because  of this early influence I can actually feel 'ashamed' if I resort to using  a strip or rubber gang mute on a difficult piano. Do i need psychoanalysis?  However, I could actually argue pretty stongly in favour of using them with very small grands and uprights where inharmonicity is so pronounced that setting an acceptable temperament can take more than one pass, and using this aid would be quicker.  When this topic comes
 under discussion over here it is generally argued that the temperament is not exactly the same when you return to complete the unisons and that the whole excercise can be more time consuming.
It would be interesting to know what proportion of tuners is 'mute free'
Ric



Richard
the "Piano Guy"
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