IF your original assessment of the work to be done anticipated that this job would be more involved than a more straightforward scenario, then charge away accordingly. What we have to sell is our time and experience. If you "didn't see it coming", you could broach the topic with your client and see where the conversation goes, pointing out that you did what was necessary to get a good result, even though it was far beyond a normal key rebushing job. If they are sympathetic and will pay for your extra time even though it was beyond the estimate (yes, people will sometimes do that), then hooray. If there was a dollar amount estimate up front and they want to hold you to it, it would be unprofessional to restist. In that case, eat this one. Consider it part of the price of that experience you are selling along with your time. Best, Alan Eder -----Original Message----- From: edmiller3 at hotmail.com To: pianotech at ptg.org Sent: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 4:25 AM Subject: Re: mortising attachment for drill press Thanks to everyone for your suggestions on how to solve my key rebushing nightmare, the original post was entitled "disrupted mortises". They were disrupted when I removed the bushings that were glued in with PVC-E- alot of wood came out with the felt. Though were many great suggestions as to how to get an even rebushing job at this point, here's what I did with some success... I essentially did a 'trial and error' rebushing job. I felt-tested every mortise individually with different size felts. In the end I used a wide range of felt, spanning as many as 5 sizes apart. Each key got whatever size felt that gave me the snug fit that I was looking for. Though this procecdure took a lot longer than a normal rebushing job, I am pleased with the results. I have not decided whether to charge the client more for the job, since it took much longer. What do you all think? I dont really feel comfortable doing that. I guess my feeling is that, some jobs you make out on, and some you don't. Ed >From: "MICHAEL MORVAN" <keymaestro at verizon.net> >Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org> >To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org> >Subject: Re: mortising attachment for drill press >Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:35:23 -0500 > >Ed, > I have used a mortising attachment in a drill press, and as Frank >stated you can ruin your machine and you can buy a mortising machine for >cheap money. You can use Bill Spurlock's mortise sizing cauls as Terry >stated, they work great if the mortise is okay, but it sounds like yours >are very bad. If you were to use a mortising machine to fix mortises you >might consider two things: 1. the smallest chisel I've been able to find is >1/4 inch, this is wider than any factory mortise width and the cloth would >have to be super thick, this leads to an unstable mortise, 2. once a >mortise is distorted and wood is ripped out, it would be tough to center a >cutter to remove wood evenly on both sides, then you would have a spacing >nightmare. This topic of mortise repair/replacement is a wonderful reason >to bush keys with hot hide glue. Look at the mortise replacement slideshow >on my website, it is not terribly difficult to replace a mortise, sometimes >its easier than other alternatives, but you'll need some buttons, a router >and a table saw. Good luck, let the list know how you made out. >Michael A. Morvan >Blackstone Valley Piano >Dedicated To Advancing The Art Of Keyboard Restoration >76 Sutton Street >Uxbridge, Ma. 01569 >(508) 278-9762 >Keymaestro at verizon.net >www.pianoandorgankeys.com > >----- Original Message ----- From: "ed miller" <edmiller3 at hotmail.com> >To: <pianotech at ptg.org> >Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 9:09 PM >Subject: mortising attachment for drill press > > >>Has anyone ever used a mortising attachment made to fit on your drill >>press? >> >>It seems that this might be a possible tool/technique to use for evening >>out mortises during rebushing jobs (if the mortises are not consistent). >>Maybe you could open the existing mortise just slightly that all the >>mortises are exactly the same size. >> >>Just curious if anyone has ever used this tool and/or technique. >> >>Ed >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered >>by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping has everything on your holiday list. Get expert picks by style, age, and price. Try it! http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8000,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200601 &tcode=wlmtagline ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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