This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment MessageHi Alan, The Acrosonic I tuned yesterday had a few extra beats hear and there. ;) = A volunteer at the nursing home said the piano sounded louder when I = was finished. That made me feel good for sure. Marshall ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alan Barnard=20 To: Pianotech List=20 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:32 PM Subject: Re: tuning environment Eh? What's that yer sayin' Sonny? Speak up, will ya! The sound is there and you are hearing it. The ear training is = learning to discriminate it from all other sounds. This may sound stupid = and I don't know if anyone will agree with me, but it almost seems like = I sort of feel the beats as much as hear them, sometimes.=20 Depending on how large and well scaled that Yamaha is, your slow = intervals may beat slower than on most pianos you tune. Grab a little = spinet, tune a center octave and place fourths and fifths within it: = they'll beat. Also, you also have to train yourself to ignore the 6:4 = beat in the fifth and it can be quite prominent on some pianos, = distractingly so. Alan Barnard Salem, Missouri ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Robert Finley=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org Sent: 02/04/2006 8:56:44 AM=20 Subject: Re: tuning environment I am learning to tune aurally, although I use an ETD (Sanderson = Accutuner III) to check the accuracy of my tuning and to speed things = up a bit. I find it difficult to hear the beats (particlularly the slow = beating 4ths and 5ths) even in the quiet environment of my own home on = my well scaled Yamaha grand piano, because they seem to be so weak. Will = your ears eventually become more accustomed to hearing beats? I have = been doing this for months and the beats still sound very feeble, = although when I move my head around the piano they become slightly more = perceptible. I can't imagine what it must be like to have to tune a = piano in the noisy environments that you describe.=20 Robert Finley ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Geoff Sykes=20 To: tune4u@earthlink.net ; 'Pianotech List'=20 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:51 AM Subject: RE: tuning environment I had the opportunity to tune four pianos at NAMM last year. Ever = try to tune in a very large convention center full of pianos all being = tuned at the same time? Complete chaos and cacophony would have been = quieter. Especially when you find yourself working on the same note at = the same time as one or two other techs in the same room. And you know = what? It was a fascinating high energy learning experience and I'd = gladly do it again.=20 -- Geoff Sykes -- Assoc. Los Angeles -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org = [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Alan Barnard Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:47 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: RE: tuning environment Stick around awhile and you'll experience some tuning = environments that'll make noisy nursing homes seem like a nap on the = beach. Lawn mowers, vacuums, screeching 2-year-olds, clocks!!!, loud = air conditioners and furnaces, televisions, and (at Fort Leonard Wood) = the not-so-distant sound of small arms, tank shells, and the engineers = blowing up stuff ... kabooM! ... the fun just keeps on coming. One that was a challenge: Junior high school tuning Hamilton on = stage in gym/auditorium with concrete floor and cinder block walls, boys = basketball team shows up and they each grab a ball and start bouncing, = shooting, shouting, laughing and the SHOES ... sqeak squirk eek scree. I = couldn't complain because I'd gotten held up and was an hour late when I = started. And the number one most obnoxious sound? Someone else tuning = another piano in the background.=20 Alan Barnard Salem, Missouri ----- Original Message -----=20 From:=20 To: Pianotech List Sent: 02/03/2006 6:37:02 PM=20 Subject: tuning environment Hi Everyone, I know it's not a technical question per sae, but I like = hearing about other technician's experiences. What has been yoru worst = tuning environment? Today I tuned a piano at a nursing home, an = Acrosonic. The people were great, but it always throws me off when = someone comesup and asks me a question such as, "Have you found that = lost chord yet." I was making sure my thirds matched up evenly. It was = great, and I scheduled them for their next tuning already plus one of = the employees there scheduled me to tune her piano in two weeks. It was = a great experience, but it's hard to tune with lots of background = activity. What do you guys do in that situation, besides make the best = of it.?:) =20 Marshall ps. It was a great tuning all around however, plus they = offered me lunch! Awesome chili and corn bread. =20 -------------- Original message --------------=20 From: Susan Kline <skline@peak.org>=20 > At 03:57 PM 2/3/2006 -0800, Horace wrote:=20 > >Actually that has been done a number of times. When I was = more active in=20 > >institutional work, I used to do it for demonstration = purposes...it does=20 > >get folks' attention.=20 >=20 > I'm sure it does!=20 >=20 > >Also, I know specifically of one major contemporary venue = in which this=20 > >was done to the primary concert instrument...no, the = technician who did it=20 > >is no longer employed there.=20 >=20 > Ready for a different sort of institution, I would guess = ... well, there is=20 > more than one way to tell an employer to "take this job = and shove it."=20 >=20 > sssssssssnn=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________=20 >! ;! ;! ; Pianotech list info: = https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/b3/6b/3d/d8/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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