---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Robert, Go to the PTG website shop and get the book "On Pitch". I had this same problem, problem was I was trying to listen to something way up in the stratosphere. This will help you to identify where to listen for the beats (coincident partial of the interval) etc. I also found that using ear-plugs, Diane Hofstetter's canal caps are great, really helped to reduce that stratospheric stuff so I could focus on the useful sounds. Andrew Anderson At 08:54 AM 2/4/2006, you wrote: >I am learning to tune aurally, although I use an ETD (Sanderson >Accutuner III) to check the accuracy of my tuning and to speed >things up a bit. I find it difficult to hear the beats >(particlularly the slow beating 4ths and 5ths) even in the quiet >environment of my own home on my well scaled Yamaha grand piano, >because they seem to be so weak. Will your ears eventually become >more accustomed to hearing beats? I have been doing this for months >and the beats still sound very feeble, although when I move my head >around the piano they become slightly more perceptible. I can't >imagine what it must be like to have to tune a piano in the noisy >environments that you describe. > >Robert Finley >----- Original Message ----- >From: <mailto:thetuner@ivories52.com>Geoff Sykes >To: <mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net>tune4u@earthlink.net ; ><mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>'Pianotech List' >Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:51 AM >Subject: RE: tuning environment > >I had the opportunity to tune four pianos at NAMM last year. Ever >try to tune in a very large convention center full of pianos all >being tuned at the same time? Complete chaos and cacophony would >have been quieter. Especially when you find yourself working on the >same note at the same time as one or two other techs in the same >room. And you know what? It was a fascinating high energy learning >experience and I'd gladly do it again. > >-- Geoff Sykes >-- Assoc. Los Angeles > >-----Original Message----- >From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] >On Behalf Of Alan Barnard >Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:47 PM >To: Pianotech List >Subject: RE: tuning environment > >Stick around awhile and you'll experience some tuning environments >that'll make noisy nursing homes seem like a nap on the beach. > >Lawn mowers, vacuums, screeching 2-year-olds, clocks!!!, loud air >conditioners and furnaces, televisions, and (at Fort Leonard Wood) >the not-so-distant sound of small arms, tank shells, and the >engineers blowing up stuff ... kabooM! ... the fun just keeps on coming. > >One that was a challenge: Junior high school tuning Hamilton on >stage in gym/auditorium with concrete floor and cinder block walls, >boys basketball team shows up and they each grab a ball and start >bouncing, shooting, shouting, laughing and the SHOES ... sqeak >squirk eek scree. I couldn't complain because I'd gotten held up and >was an hour late when I started. > >And the number one most obnoxious sound? Someone else tuning another >piano in the background. > >Alan Barnard >Salem, Missouri > > >----- Original Message ----- >From:<mailto:pianotune05@comcast.net> >To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>Pianotech List >Sent: 02/03/2006 6:37:02 PM >Subject: tuning environment > > >Hi Everyone, >I know it's not a technical question per sae, but I like hearing >about other technician's experiences. What has been yoru worst >tuning environment? Today I tuned a piano at a nursing home, an >Acrosonic. The people were great, but it always throws me off when >someone comesup and asks me a question such as, "Have you found that >lost chord yet." I was making sure my thirds matched up evenly. It >was great, and I scheduled them for their next tuning already plus >one of the employees there scheduled me to tune her piano in two >weeks. It was a great experience, but it's hard to tune with lots >of background activity. What do you guys do in that situation, >besides make the best of it.?:) >Marshall >ps. It was a great tuning all around however, plus they offered me >lunch! Awesome chili and corn bread. >-------------- Original message -------------- >From: Susan Kline <skline@peak.org> > > > At 03:57 PM 2/3/2006 -0800, Horace wrote: > > >Actually that has been done a number of times. When I was more active in > > >institutional work, I used to do it for demonstration purposes...it does > > >get folks' attention. > > > > I'm sure it does! > > > > >Also, I know specifically of one major contemporary venue in which this > > >was done to the primary concert instrument...no, the technician > who did it > > >is no longer employed there. > > > > Ready for a different sort of institution, I would guess ... > well, there is > > more than one way to tell an employer to "take this job and shove it." > > > > sssssssssnn > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > >! ;! ; Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/76/47/06/e9/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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