This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Marshall, It's important to think through the "why it works" and not just be content with the "that it works." In other words, you have to understand why you're doing something instead of just because someone said that's the way to do it. When you start thinking this way, things make more sense and you eventually become less dependent on others. Put a small rubber mute in between the first and second strings or use two large mutes - one beside the string and another against the strut. The first way you'll be tuning the string closest to the strut, and the second way you'll be tuning the middle string. Speed will come. I remember very well when I was in the same situation. There are several things you are working on all at once, and it takes time for them to come together. Keep practicing, but remember to practice correctly. Otherwise, you'll pick up bad habits. John Formsma _____ From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of pianotune05 Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:12 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Upgrading..... Hi John, Sorry I gave you the impression that one stops at RPt and doesn't keep learning. I should have mentioned that more clearly in the e-mail ,but I was in a hurry as usual to get moving with the day. I agree, never stoplearning. I told someone that the other day. I said that this is a great trade, always more t o learn. When you say find what works, are you referring to, strip muting one section then using mutes in another verses strip muting the entire piano for example? I do different things especially when I get to a point on a grant where no mute will stay because the space is so great between the last string and the strut. I haven't figured out what to do on that one yet. My biggest challange and headahce frustration aggrevation is speed. I just cannot seem to speed up. I mean how many pianos do I have to tune before I get past 3hours. does a little light and buzzer go off when I reach the 2 hour mark? :) Well anyway, sorry I gave you the impression that I'm going to stop at RPT an d sit back and say, ah, I'm done learning. No, I'm not done, and that's why I asked so many questions on here and got a few upset with me. Oh well, I guess there's nothing I can do but keep moving on and learning. Marshall ----- Original Message ----- From: John Formsma <mailto:john@formsmapiano.com> To: Pianotech List <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Upgrading..... Marshall, First, it's important to recognize that RPT is not the "prize." It's a recognition of proficiency, not a recognition of maximum ability. We should go on from RPT to higher levels, both in tuning and other areas of piano technology. Second, PTG has a number of resources available to help a person attain the RPT goal. You've heard the saying, "practice makes perfect." That is only true if you practice correctly. :-) So, I'd recommend using the old noodle to think through these things rather than doing them a certain way only because "so and so piano guru" says that's the way. Find what works, and understand why it works. (I'm still working on that, by the way.) John Formsma pianotune05 wrote: Here's another question. What can one do in order to start preparing for the PTG exam even though it's premature or early?, ie. tune a zillion pianos, shape a gillion hammers, rebulid a loughhead piano to make it sound better. :) what can an assocate do, and one like myself who is a pre associate member, I haven't been to my first meeting yet, do in order to keep RPT as the goal the prize as far as piano tuning is concerned in their mind? Marshall ----- Original Message ----- From: John Formsma <mailto:john@formsmapiano.com> To: 'Pianotech List' <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:06 AM Subject: RE: Upgrading..... Ron, I was just about to send what I wrote to Dean when your post hit my inbox. You have said it so well that it totally eclipsed mine so I'm not sending it now. J Yes, yes - there must be a way to promote excellence. And, "Craftsman" and "Certified" are much more descriptive. I prefer either of those to "Registered." Isn't it a problem that PTG comes up with the terms, but it's we who have to do the educating? We don't have much time for that. Is there a way PTG could educate the piano playing populace? I'm thinking, wow, that would be hard. The first step could be beginning at the university and piano teaching guilds, and hopefully it would filter down after a while. But before that, you would have to demonstrate that PTG people are generally more skilled. (There will always be exceptions, of course.) I don't think you can do that as it is currently set up unless you get rid of the Associate status. Wow, big situation when you start to think about it. BTW, How many different places are you registered to vote in Florida ? <g> John Formsma From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of RON MAY, RPT Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:27 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Upgrading..... Hi People Until the day comes that the public becomes educated, aware and demands expertise and professional performance or heaven forbid the government becomes involved and demands licensing such as that demanded for other trades such as plumbers and electricians, we are just lighting a fire under and empty skillet. Now that anyone can show themselves as a member of PTG and we have come up with "Registered" members, which no one has the slightest idea about instead off craftsman ratings or some other descriptive rating there is only one motivation and that is from within.. Unfortunately not very many seem to have this motivation or pride in their work and profession. Whether we are RPTs, Certified Tuner Technicians,or craftsman, getting the message out is up to we individual technicians and most of us are busy and have become very complacent about the problem. To me Certified says a whole lot more than registered. I'm "Registered" to vote in Florida and we all know what that means but obviously some don't know how to do it. We as PTG just continue to shoot ourselves in the foot on this issue. Something needs to be done and it needs to become a priority. Ron May ----- Original Message ----- From: Avery <mailto:avery1@houston.rr.com> To: Pianotech List <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: Re: Upgrading..... This subject HAS been on ptg-L. For DAYS!!!!!!!!!! Weeks? :-( Avery ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/9f/5e/32/7d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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