---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment You may have to use a single needle to get started. Sometimes the hammer is just too hard to get those little pitchforks in there. I always do a light sanding with 600 grit paper before going to needles. I do a few shoe-shine strokes with a hammer-width strip to soften the surface(some people use finer paper, some rougher). This smooths the surface and usually evens out the tone to a degree. I've learned a lot about voicing from this list. Mostly what I've learned is how much I don't know about it and how much less I knew before that. Many shades of gray in this area... Dave Stahl In a message dated 2/27/2006 2:56:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ilvey@sbcglobal.net writes: John, You said this was newer...1 year old or so? Personally, I'd go through and check the density in the shoulders. Can you get a needle in at 11:00 am and 1:00 pm...;-]??? You probably need to consider 30 some stitches on each shoulder...all around where it's hard. You have to have some resiliency in the shoulders or you will never get good tone for any length of time... David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, California ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "John Dorr" <a440@bresnan.net> To: pianotech@ptg.org Received: 2/27/2006 1:56:55 PM Subject: Bridge notch anomaly morphing into voicing >List, >I'd like to thank everyone for their thoughtful posts. I've printed them all >out and I've learned from all of your responses, even those that didn't read >the post that carefully! <G> [As far as that goes, I probably shouldn't have >written the word "zingy"; a better descriptor might have been "nasal".] >I'll be revisiting that piano soon and trying my hand at some more voicing. > The client is a friend of mine, and she called me over and said a different >note sounded "out of tune", which really wasn't. The unisons were solid and >the note checked out aurally every way I knew to test. But the hammers are so >hard that when I soften one or more slightly, another neighbor pokes its >"nose" in there, sounding harsh by the NEW comparison. The piano has a nice >clear, somewhat bright tone in its nicest notes, but the ones that are >annoying remind me of the worst of the Young Changs, if that makes any sense. > (Not all Young Changs are that way, of course, but the ones that need help >sound "nasal" to me.) >Maybe you voicers out there could give me a few ideas on how to approach this >circumspectly. Start with string leveling/hammer mating and string seating? > Steam? (how to?) Right to the needles? Pick an octave, dial in a few notes, >learn from there and spread the treatment? >I'm going to do this one for free because she's a friend of mine and I don't >expect to "beat flat rate" (as we used to refer to it when I was an auto >mechanic!) I just want to put my foot in the waters gently and learn without >doing anything that's irreversibly tragic! >You guys are great. Thanks again. >John Dorr, RPT2B (lol) >Helena, MT Dave Stahl Dave Stahl Piano Service 650-224-3560 _http://dstahlpiano.net/_ (http://www.dstahlpiano.net/) ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/80/ab/fb/bf/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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