near impossible tuning

[Barbara Richmond]

Dean,

Well, you sort of answered your own question there.  Yes, voicing is the problem.....if you don't do it.  It's not really difficult, it just takes some effort and the will to do it.  <And> as Roger wrote, the strings need to be leveled, etc.

I seem to recall you've had the same complaints about Kawais in the past, Dean.  Not to sound like your mother or anything, but, haven't you tried voicing them yet?!  :-)   

10 year old pianos that have never been voiced?   Eeeew.  This is your chance to be a really big hero (that is, if the owners are wanting a change).


Barbara Richmond


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dean May 
  To: 'Pianotech List' 
  Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:48 AM
  Subject: RE: near impossible tuning


  Dale wrote:   I really like the Kawai grands in general. The tone is far more interesting than it other Japanese competitor & I can do wonderful things with the voicing . 





  I don't get it. Most all of the Kawai grands I tune (which aren't that many) I don't really care much for. Since there aren't any new Kawais being sold in this area most of the ones I encounter are 10 plus years old of the KG variety, a couple of GS, one GS-70. I don't like the sustain. With the sustain pedal on when playing an arpeggio the sound quickly fades into white noise and one cannot discern what scale was just played. I've done some experimenting even, hitting individual notes across the scale with an f blow and I get about a second of tone before there is only noise.



  These are pianos with original hammers that have probably never had a needle stuck in them. Is this a hammer/voicing problem?

  Dean

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Erwinspiano at aol.com
  Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:18 AM
  To: pianotech at ptg.org
  Subject: Re: near impossible tuning



    Dittos Roger

    Ed Normally I find Kawai a very stable piano.   I tuned a Kg-2 the other day &  I had not tuned it for 3 years.  Except for being 6 cents flat, enough for a pitch raise, it was in solidly in tune with itself & I wondered why I was there. It is also an easy piano to tune.

     I really like the Kawai grands in general. The tone is far more interesting than it other Japanese competitor & I can do wonderful things with the voicing .  However on some of the grands & verticals a like have pins do not render well.

    Ed I don't get it & would like to know this is only an isolated incident as I currently have a client looking to buy one of the same models

   Dale

    After lifting, leveling, and fitting, the power, sustain, and  voicing will improve.

    String lifting is a skill just like tuning, I would hardly call it indiscriminate.

    Regards Roger





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