Question about blackening sharps

[Leslie Bartlett]

I'm not into the die stuff.........  It's dye, I think.....  I sleep better
that way........
les bartlett 

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use India ink.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Atkisson" <jeffkiss at sonic.net>
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Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Question about blackening sharps


So the best option is to dye or stain the wood?
I tried Iron Oxide pigment in alcohol and the wood would not take any color.
I will try a product like this transtint.
Thanks

Jeff
On Sep 2, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Farrell wrote:

> Hmmmm, I don't think any confusion originates on this end (at least on 
> this topic). To quote directly from the "TransTint Liquid Dye 
> Concentrate Technical Data Sheet"
>
> http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/pdf/TransTintTDS%206-2006.pdf
>
> "The dye can be mixed with either water or alcohol as a bare stain on 
> wood - or added directly to finishing materials like shellac and 
> lacquer to make toners or stains." It goes on to state: "To use 
> TransTints as a stain for bare wood, stir in the concentrate...."
>
> Sooooo, it would seem to me that the product is both a die and a 
> stain. I suspect it would be fair to call anything that permanently 
> colors something else a stain - like Carbernet Sauvignon is a wine, 
> but can also be a stain (DAMHIK). :-)
>
> Hope that clears the air!
>
> Terry Farrell
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> Terry,
>> You might be confusing someone here. The product is either die or 
>> stain to the best of my knowledge, not both. The Transtint you speak 
>> of is decidedly dye NOT stain. Shoe products are also dyer and NOT 
>> stain. I hope that might be some clarification for Jeff.
>>
>> best,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> At 07:40 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote:
>>> Lots in the archives on this. Many ways to do it. If you must stain 
>>> the beautiful natural ebony - use black die stain - #6023 Black 
>>> http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/htdocs/TransTint.htm
>>>
>>> Or, go to your local shoe dude and get some black shoe stain.
>>>
>>> Finish with a clear coat of your choice - I like a nice oil finish - 
>>> just wipe in on.
>>>
>>> Terry Farrell
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> Hi
>>>> First time posting here.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if there is a standard procedure for blackening 
>>>> sharps.
>>>>
>>>> I have a set which had an ugly finish - shiny and wavy gravy.
>>>> I stripped them and the ebony is quite "blond" in color - sort of 
>>>> tiger striped.
>>>>
>>>> I can't figure out how to get them to take stain. (wood being so 
>>>> extremely dense).
>>>> I have attempted to "paint" them with shellac mixed with iron oxide 
>>>> pigment (very nice black).
>>>> But I cant get a good surface without sanding through at the 
>>>> corners.
>>>>
>>>> This is all to say - I am clueless.
>>>> What do the factories do?
>>>> Any standard tricks for a standard look?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>> Greg Newell
>> Greg's Piano Forté
>> mailto:gnewell at ameritech.net
>> www.gregspianoforte.com


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