<<Using an ETD , I fear, sometimes makes it worse. They see that and assume that _IT_ is doing all the work. After all, they've seen the auto mechanics plug in their diagnostics, punch a few buttons and PRESTO!, _it's_ tuned up (or at least, the "check engine" light is out).>> Then there was the guy in my area (now deceased) who set his Strobe tuner on the lid of the unopened piano, sat down, and read a book. The lady of the house inquired about it, and he replied, "The tuner up there is tuning your piano." Wish it were that easy.... JF
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