disabling individual noes

[reggaepass at aol.com]

 Hi Joe,

 and E flat are derived from the Like so many other pieces using original tuning systems, although the piece had been performed and even recorded previously, some tuning issues had just not yet been worked out with previous tuners.? To quote the composer from notes he made while we sorted through what it is he actually wants, "C19th and 23rd harmonics of low A [one of the drone notes] with pure octaves below the top of the piano."? Also, "Higher (unplayed) pitches are tuned to lower tones (for example A 6, 7, 8 are tuned to A 4's or A 5's octave harmonics most are at 4 octaves above, some are at 3; high Gs are tuned to their corresponding 7th harmonics; pitches below the drone are tuned as octaves to the drone."

Does that answer your question?

Alan


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe And Penny Goss <imatunr at srvinet.com>
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Sent: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 7:25 am
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Hi Alan,


Are you saying that the (unplayed notes) would be 
tuned say a half step lower to match played notes?


?


Tuned a piano several years back where all the 
white were 1/2 step low and the black a whole step low.


An interesting 3 step pitch raise to A440? 
>g< 


Joe Goss RPT
Mother Goose Tools
imatunr at srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com



  
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From: 
  reggaepass at aol.com 

  
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Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:44 
  AM

  
Subject: Re: disabling individual 
  noes

  



  
Hi Terry,


When I've muted un-played notes in the past, the 
  resulting sound that is made when these notes are accidentally played has been 
  an issue.? Considered muting of un-played strings, but then found out 
  that in this piece, ALL pitches and registers, even those not played, are to 
  be tuned to certain specified relationships with played notes.? This is 
  for sympathetic resonance, both within the piano itself and with the computer 
  generated drones sounding throughout the piece.? 

Thanks to you 
  and to everyone else who has responded to this query.? Lots of good 
  stuff.

Cheers,

Alan Eder


  



  


-----Original Message-----
From: Farrell 
  <mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com>
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  <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 6:28 am
Subject: Re: 
  disabling individual noes


  

  
But then wouldn't the front of the?key go 
  down and stay down? Maybe add a key leveling lead weight to the rear of the 
  key (backcheck) - but would it stay?

  
?

  
Or, what about just muting those notes with a 
  couple pieces of felt? If the player is not playing the muted?notes, then 
  any inadvertent light key strike might not likely make much of a sound. Just 
  mute it off like you would a replacement string that is pulled a bit sharp and 
  left that way. Certainly an easy solution.

  
?

  
Terry Farrell

  

    
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    Original Message ----- 

    
From: 
    Tom 
    Sivak 

    
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    List 

    
Sent: 
    Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:26 AM

    
Subject: 
    Re: disabling individual noes

    



    
Even though he's not playing the Cs or Ebs, I think it would be 
    disconcerting that they wouldn't be able to move.? I would prefer 
    something inside which would prevent the notes from playing, but allow the 
    keys to depress anyway.? You could remove the hammers and shanks from 
    those individual keys, allowing the keys to depress but make no sound.? 
    It would be more trouble, but ultimately is a better solution.? I 
    think.

    
?

    
Tom Sivak

    
Chicago

reggaepass at aol.com wrote:

    
Greetings 
      List(s),

Someone is paying me handsomely to realize their own 
      tuning system for 
a couple of performances this weekend. As a safety 
      precaution, he 
would like to have the notes that he doesn't actually 
      play (all of the 
Cs and Ebs, in this case) disabled. The best idea I 
      have come up with 
so far is to add another front rail cloth punching 
      on top of the one 
that is already there for these keys, so the keys 
      will barely depress.

Is there a better/easier 
      way?

Thanks,

Alan 
      Eder
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