voicing learning curve

ed miller edmiller3 at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 5 20:13:35 MST 2007


Thanks, Lance. That's great advice.


>From: "Lance Lafargue" <lafargue at bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Subject: Re:voicing learning curve
>Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:14:41 -0600
>
>One thought is to learn one hammer brand, allowing you some consistency. 
>Part of the problem is that one thing done to one hammer won't yield the 
>same results on another brand of hammer.  So, if you can that is, learn how 
>to voice say, Renner Blues by using Renner lit available, listening to 
>cause and effect, then maybe Abel, then Yamaha, etc.  I didn't believe you 
>could rough ballpark voice a set of new hammers without first listening to 
>them, but you can.  Then finish within 45 minutes.  Practice room pianos at 
>a University is also another great way, just go slow and stay away from the 
>strike point deeper than 1/16" for a while.
>
>Sitting with an experienced voicer and talking and listening to different 
>sounds and causes will help.  Talking attack vs sustain, vs color, etc and 
>sticking needles around to discuss it.  Some of this will just take time 
>and that's all there is to it, like learning tuning.  Of course, go slow at 
>first and don't ruin anything.   Good luck.
>
>Lance Lafargue, RPT
>LAFARGUE PIANOS, LTD
>LPIANOS.com
>4244 Hwy 22 Mandeville, LA 70471
>985.72P.IANO
>----- Original Message ----- From: "ed miller" <edmiller3 at hotmail.com>
>To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:10 PM
>Subject: [SPAM] voicing learning curve
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I'm looking for some voicing advice (mentoring). I'm two years into 
>>learning the piano trade and have learned a great deal already in the 
>>realm of tuning, regulating and repairing (though I know there's MUCH more 
>>to learn). I've found that most skills are pretty straight foward, they 
>>just take a little doing to get the hang of.
>>
>>Voicing, on the other hand, seems to me to be the most nuanced skill of 
>>them all. I'm a bit intimidated by it. There are so many techniques that I 
>>have read about. I'm sure most of them have merit, but none of them mean 
>>anything if the technician has not developed a fine ear for tonal quality 
>>and characterstics, and the subtle changes that can be achieved by 
>>manipulating the hammers.
>>
>>I'm intereted in hearing any thoughts on how one develops this skill. I'm 
>>less interested in specific techniques. I'm more looking for insight into 
>>the process of learning to be a quality voicing technician. Possibly some 
>>some stories from your own voicing learning process.
>>
>>Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>>Thanks,
>>Ed
>>
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