Pianotech Digest, Vol 1284, Issue 64

J Pengelly johnsfsr at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 8 12:17:11 MST 2007


Laurel,
Helen was wondering when T4 slips will be ready.

John


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>Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Edward String Covers (Fenton Murray)
>    2. Re: your mail (Tuning Hammer Case) (David Ilvedson)
>    3. Re: Edward String Covers (David Ilvedson)
>    4. Re: your mail (David Ilvedson)
>    5. Re: your mail (Steve Fujan)
>    6. Re: F. Kain & Sohn piano (John Delacour)
>    7. Re: F. Kain & Sohn piano (Gregor _)
>    8. RE: Yamaha Thomaston  plant closure (Conrad Hoffsommer)
>    9. Re: Cuttin' Sitka for Soundboards (alan forsyth)



>From: "Fenton Murray" <fmurray at cruzio.com>
>Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Subject: Re: Edward String Covers
>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:11:47 -0800
>Hey Big Piano Man,
>You ever run into Leonard Hanocheck over there, I used to know him 20 years 
>ago in the San Jose area. Say Aloha to him from Fenton Murray
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: BRETT GLASS
>   To: pianotech at ptg.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:27 PM
>   Subject: Edward String Covers
>
>
>         Aloha, My wife makes all of my string covers. I supply her with 
>the templates and she makes them up. But we get $300 retail for each one 
>including me delivering it. I know that sounds high but the value is there 
>when you consider the cost of new strings every 10 or 12 years for your 
>Grand piano setting in an open house by the ocean.  What would you be 
>willing to pay for them. I'm sure she would rather stay home and make 
>covers than work a job somewhere. Of course you would need to send a 
>template for anything I don't have on file yet. Check my web site for a 
>list of templates on file.  www.bgpianoman.com  We use Schaff felt and they 
>have a fancy gold stitch with a finished boarder. The rod pockets are fixed 
>in place no Velcro. I never did like that on covers. Every time a customer 
>takes it off they end up messed up. On ours you can just slide the dowel 
>rod out of the pocket if your going to clean it. For now we are not 
>offering to add embroidery of piano name. We have a small machine big 
>enough to stitch out a name about 7.5 inches long, but we are not sure 
>about trade mark or copy rights. Plus I have not had a customer ask for it 
>unless I bring it up. If anyone knows a better sourse for the felt let me 
>know. I think Schaff costs about 16 or 17 $$ per yard.
>
>         Brett
>
>
>   --





>From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: ilvey at sbcglobal.net, Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: your mail (Tuning Hammer Case)
>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:58:14 -0800
>I've got a fixed knife case I ended up not using...a little big for my tool 
>kit...I use a wool sock now...
>
>The fixed knife case is for sale...cost me $35...
>
>
>
>David Ilvedson, RPT
>
>Pacifica, CA 94044
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Original message
>
>From: "Steve Fujan"
>
>To: "Pianotech List"
>
>Received: 2/7/2007 9:42:25 AM
>
>Subject: Re: your mail (Tuning Hammer Case)
>
>
>
>This looks kind of interesting:
>
>http://www.maxpedition.com/product/product_case_r14.htm
>
>
>
>Steve Fujan
>
>www.fujanproducts.com
>
>
>
>
>
>On 2/7/07, richard.ucci at att.net <richard.ucci at att.net > wrote:
>
>
>
>Sorry folks, didn't attach the link....
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/PROFESSIONAL-PIANO-TUNING-KIT-TOOLS_W0QQitemZ250080343559QQihZ015QQcategoryZ64431QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
>
>-------------- Original message from richard.ucci at att.net: ------------


>
>
>
>
>Hey,
>
>Anybody know where I can get just the case? They won't sell it that way=
>,and I don't need the hammer.
>
>Thanks,
>
>RU/UP
>
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>     <p>I've got a fixed knife case I ended up not using...a little big =
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>     <p>The fixed knife case is for sale...cost me $35...<br /><br />Dav=
>id Ilvedson, RPT<br />Pacifica, CA 94044<br /><br /></p>
>     <div style=3D"padding-right: 5px; padding-left: 5px; padding-bottom=
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>       <hr />Original message<br />From: &quot;Steve Fujan&quot;
>       <sjfujan at gmail.com>&nbsp;</sjfujan at gmail.com><br />To: &quot;Pian=
>otech List&quot;
>       <pianotech at ptg.org>&nbsp;</pianotech at ptg.org><br />Received: 2/7/=
>2007 9:42:25 AM<br />Subject: Re: your mail (Tuning Hammer Case)<br /><=
>br />This looks kind of interesting:<br /><a onclick=3D"return top.js.O=
>penExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"http://www.maxpedition.com/produ=
>ct/product_case_r14.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://www.maxpedition.com/p=
>roduct/product_case_r14.htm </a><br /><span><br />Steve Fujan<br /><a o=
>nclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"http://=
>www.fujanproducts.com/" target=3D"_blank">www.fujanproducts.com</a></sp=
>an><br /><br />
>       <div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2/7/07, <b class=3D"gmail_sen=
>dername"><a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" hr=
>ef=3D"mailto:richard.ucci at att.net" target=3D"_blank">richard.ucci at att.n=
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>s)" href=3D"mailto:richard.ucci at att.net" target=3D"_blank">richard.ucci=
>@att.net </a>&gt; wrote:</span>
>         <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"padding-left: 1ex; m=
>argin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
>           <div>
>             <div>&nbsp;</div>
>             <p>Sorry folks, didn't attach the link....</p>
>             <p><a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,thi=
>s)" href=3D"http://cgi.ebay.com/PROFESSIONAL-PIANO-TUNING-KIT-TOOLS_W0Q=
>QitemZ250080343559QQihZ015QQcategoryZ64431QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIte=
>m" target=3D"_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/PROFESSIONAL-PIANO-TUNING-KIT-=
>TOOLS_W0QQitemZ250080343559QQihZ015QQcategoryZ64431QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcm=
>dZViewItem </a><br /></p>
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>"mailto:richard.ucci at att.net" target=3D"_blank">richard.ucci at att.net</a=
> >: -------------- <br /><br />
>               <div>Hey,</div>
>               <div>Anybody know where I can get just the case? They won=
>'t sell it that way,and I don't need the hammer.</div>
>               <div>Thanks,</div>
>               <div>RU/UP</div>
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>From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: ilvey at sbcglobal.net, Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: Edward String Covers
>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:07:40 -0800
>When I first moved to SF in 1975, right after piano tuning school, a fellow 
>was advertising his Hawaii piano business.   I called him and tried to buy 
>the business, but he thought I was too green so he sold it to Leonard 
>Hanocheck, who was in the Bay Area at the time...
>
>
>
>David Ilvedson, RPT
>
>Pacifica, CA 94044
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Original message
>
>From: "Fenton Murray"
>
>To: "Pianotech List"
>
>Received: 2/7/2007 11:11:47 PM
>
>Subject: Re: Edward String Covers
>
>
>
>
>
>Hey Big Piano Man,
>
>You ever run into Leonard Hanocheck over there, I used to know him 20 years 
>ago in the San Jose area. Say Aloha to him from Fenton Murray
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: BRETT GLASS
>
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:27 PM
>
>Subject: Edward String Covers
>
>
>
>
>
>Aloha, My wife makes all of my string covers. I supply her with the 
>templates and she makes them up. But we get $300 retail for each one 
>including me delivering it. I know that sounds high but the value is there 
>when you consider the cost of new strings every 10 or 12 years for your 
>Grand piano setting in an open house by the ocean.  What would you be 
>willing to pay for them. I'm sure she would rather stay home and make 
>covers than work a job somewhere. Of course you would need to send a 
>template for anything I don't have on file yet. Check my web site for a 
>list of templates on file.  www.bgpianoman.com  We use Schaff felt and they 
>have a fancy gold stitch with a finished boarder. The rod pockets are fixed 
>in place no Velcro. I never did like that on covers. Every time a customer 
>takes it off they end up messed up. On ours you can just slide the dowel 
>rod out of the pocket if your going to clean it. For now we are not 
>offering to add embroidery of piano name. We have a small machine big 
>enough to stitch out a name about 7.5 inches long, but we are not sure 
>about trade mark or copy rights. Plus I have not had a customer ask for it 
>unless I bring it up. If anyone knows a better sourse for the felt let me 
>know. I think Schaff costs about 16 or 17 $$ per yard.
>
>
>
>Brett
>
>
>
>


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>     <div>When I first moved to SF in 1975, right after piano tuning sch=
>ool, a fellow was advertising his Hawaii piano business.&nbsp;&nbsp; I =
>called him and tried to buy the business, but he thought I was too gree=
>n so he sold it to <font size=3D"2">Leonard Hanocheck, who was in the B=
>ay Area at the time...</font><br /><br />David Ilvedson, RPT<br />Pacif=
>ica, CA 94044<br /><br />
>       <div style=3D"padding-right: 5px; padding-left: 5px; padding-bott=
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>         <hr />Original message<br />From: &quot;Fenton Murray&quot;
>         <fmurray at cruzio.com>&nbsp;</fmurray at cruzio.com><br />To: &quot;=
>Pianotech List&quot;
>         <pianotech at ptg.org>&nbsp;</pianotech at ptg.org><br />Received: 2/=
>7/2007 11:11:47 PM<br />Subject: Re: Edward String Covers<br /><br />
>         <div><font size=3D"2">Hey Big Piano Man,</font></div>
>         <div><font size=3D"2">You ever run into Leonard Hanocheck over =
>there, I used to know him 20 years ago in the San Jose area. Say Aloha =
>to him from Fenton Murray</font></div>
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>           <div style=3D"background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-col=
>or: black"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"bgpianoman at email.com" href=3D"mailt=
>o:bgpianoman at email.com">BRETT GLASS</a> </div>
>           <div style=3D"font: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"pianot=
>ech at ptg.org" href=3D"mailto:pianotech at ptg.org">pianotech at ptg.org</a> </=
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>           <div style=3D"font: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, Febru=
>ary 07, 2007 7:27 PM</div>
>           <div style=3D"font: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Edward String=
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>                   <div>Aloha, My wife makes all of my string covers. I =
>supply her with the templates and she makes them up. But we get $300 re=
>tail&nbsp;for each one including me delivering it. I know that sounds h=
>igh but the value is there when you consider the cost of new strings ev=
>ery 10 or 12 years for your Grand piano setting in an open house by the=
>  ocean.&nbsp; What would you be willing to pay for them. I'm sure she w=
>ould rather stay home and make covers than work a job somewhere. Of cou=
>rse you would need to send a template for anything I don't&nbsp;have on=
>  file yet. Check my web site for a list of templates on file.&nbsp; <a =
>href=3D"http://www.bgpianoman.com/">www.bgpianoman.com</a>&nbsp; We use=
>  Schaff felt and they have a fancy gold stitch with a finished boarder.=
>  The rod pockets are fixed in place no Velcro. I never did like that on=
>  covers. Every time a customer takes it off they end up messed up. On o=
>urs you can just slide the dowel rod out of the pocket if your going to=
>  clean it. For now we are not offering to add embroidery of piano name.=
>  We have a small machine big enough to stitch out a name about 7.5 inch=
>es long, but we are not sure about trade mark or copy rights. Plus I ha=
>ve not had a customer ask for it unless I bring it up. If anyone knows =
>a better sourse for the felt let me know. I think Schaff costs about 16=
>  or 17 $$ per yard.</div>
>                   <div>&nbsp;</div>
>                   <div>Brett</div>
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>From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: ilvey at sbcglobal.net, Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: your mail
>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:17:06 -0800
>Durability?   I've got holes in mine?   I think Isaac's lunch bags are the 
>best idea...funny looking though...;-]
>
>
>
>David Ilvedson, RPT
>
>Pacifica, CA 94044
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Original message
>
>From: "John M. Formsma"
>
>To: "Pianotech List"
>
>Received: 2/7/2007 6:17:46 AM
>
>Subject: Re: your mail
>
>
>
>Me too, me too.
>
>
>
>Also, if anyone knows how to get the "Pearl River" type bag, I need some 
>more of those to organize my things into mini-kits. I'm using something 
>that works (art supply bags), but I like the see-thru and durability of the 
>PR bags.
>
>
>
>JF
>
>
>
>pianolady50 at peoplepc.com wrote:
>
>That's a really cute little case.  If you do find empties anywhere, let us 
>know.  I'd like one for the "emergency" kit I carry.
>
>
>
>Debbie
>
>
>
>
>
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>From: "Steve Fujan" <sjfujan at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: your mail
>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:39:11 -0600
>Maybe....   Think I should?   -- Steve
>
>On 2/7/07, richard.ucci at att.net < richard.ucci at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Looks like it might do the trick. Are you considering them for your
>>hammers?
>>
>>-------------- Original message from "Steve Fujan" < sjfujan at gmail.com>:
>>--------------
>>
>>This looks kind of interesting:
>>http://www.maxpedition.com/product/product_case_r14.htm
>>
>>Steve Fujan
>>www.fujanproducts.com
>>
>>On 2/7/07, richard.ucci at att.net < richard.ucci at att.net > wrote:
>> >
>> >  Sorry folks, didn't attach the link....
>> >
>> > 
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/PROFESSIONAL-PIANO-TUNING-KIT-TOOLS_W0QQitemZ250080343559QQihZ015QQcategoryZ64431QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>> >
>> >
>> > -------------- Original message from richard.ucci at att.net:
>> > --------------
>> >
>> > Hey,
>> > Anybody know where I can get just the case? They won't sell it that
>> > way,and I don't need the hammer.
>> > Thanks,
>> > RU/UP
>> >
>> >
>>





>From: John Delacour <JD at Pianomaker.co.uk>
>Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Subject: Re: F. Kain & Sohn piano
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:33:45 +0000
>At 8:03 pm -0500 7/2/07, ed440 at mindspring.com wrote:
>
>>What kind of action does it have?  Late Viennese actions can often be much 
>>improved by sending the hammers to Abel for recovering.  It is not 
>>extremely expensive.
>
>Stuttgart is not in Austria!  The makers's name is KaiM, not Kain, and 
>those I have come across have all been quite nice without being 
>exceptional.  The piano in the picture looks as if it was made about 
>1895-99 and almost certainly has the Erard-Herz type action, quite likely 
>manufactured by the Stuttgart firm of Keller, who at that time used a 
>spiral spring for the repetition lever.
>
>JD
>
>
>
>
>





>From: "Gregor _" <karlkaputt at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: F. Kain & Sohn piano
>Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:44:29 +0100
>Kaim from Stuttgart (yes, Germany, not Austria). They invented the 
>Cantator, but I can´t exactly remember what that was. They told us in the 
>class about the patented Kaim-Cantator and I think it has something to do 
>with a very special soundboard construction. But I think this invention 
>came in the 20´s or so. Your grand seems to be too old for that cantator 
>thing, whatever it was.
>
>Gregor
>
>
>>From: John Delacour <JD at Pianomaker.co.uk>
>>Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>Subject: Re: F. Kain & Sohn piano
>>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 08:33:45 +0000
>>
>>At 8:03 pm -0500 7/2/07, ed440 at mindspring.com wrote:
>>
>>>What kind of action does it have?  Late Viennese actions can often be 
>>>much improved by sending the hammers to Abel for recovering.  It is not 
>>>extremely expensive.
>>
>>Stuttgart is not in Austria!  The makers's name is KaiM, not Kain, and 
>>those I have come across have all been quite nice without being 
>>exceptional.  The piano in the picture looks as if it was made about 
>>1895-99 and almost certainly has the Erard-Herz type action, quite likely 
>>manufactured by the Stuttgart firm of Keller, who at that time used a 
>>spiral spring for the repetition lever.
>>
>>JD
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>From: Conrad Hoffsommer <hoffsoco at luther.edu>
>Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: ilvey at sbcglobal.net, Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Subject: RE: Yamaha Thomaston  plant closure
>Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:13:46 -0600
>At 10:31 PM 2/7/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>>If that is true...will be getting them from China in the near future...
>>
>>I thought they sold well?   I'm a fan of the P22...
>>
>>David Ilvedson, RPT
>>Pacifica, CA 94044
>
>Me, too, We just got 2 more last month, and as soon as they get more 
>practice rooms built, I'll want more.
>
>Conrad
>
>
>>
>>----------
>>Original message
>>From: "David Heidel"
>>To: "Pianotech List"
>>Received: 2/7/2007 9:08:34 PM
>>Subject: Yamaha Thomaston plant closure
>>
>>Just heard today from a Yamaha dealer that the Thomaston plant will be 
>>closing in March, which means the end of the line for their consoles.  Sad 
>>news for a lot of employees there.  Guess Yamaha saw the writing on the 
>>wall before it was too late.  Anybody in that area (GA) have more info?
>>
>>David Heidel
>
>





>From: "alan forsyth" <alan at forsythalan.wanadoo.co.uk>
>Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>Subject: Re: Cuttin' Sitka for Soundboards
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:58:20 -0000
>I like your built in ear protection Terry; makes good ear muffs for the 
>winter as well!!
>Don't give any ideas to Dianne Hofstetter.
>
>
>
>
>
>So this must be the wild Nauga that Barnard was talking about! My what 
>strange ears they have.
>
>
>
>AF
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