Ed: If you've ever seen or used TuneLab that has the spectrum display you can see the two different peaks representing two different frequencies coming from one string. It's clear that there are two actual frequencies beating against each other. To me there's no doubt that it is a pitch thing. dp David M. Porritt dporritt at smu.edu -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of ed440 at mindspring.com Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:26 AM To: Pianotech List Subject: Renaming false beats...was False beats ....was M&A A For thinking purposes, how about "Apparent periodic pitch fluctuation?" Questions: Are we talking about one phenomenon of several phenomena with similar sounds? If so, can we categorize the phenomena to avoid endless wheel spinning? Can we provide a diagnostic for this? Is the phenomenon really a pitch change or a change of amplitude that we hear as a pitch change? Is the phenomenon a change of timbre that we hear as pitch change? Is the phenomenon mostly limited to the capo region, or does our perception assume the "beating quality" in this area? Is this because of the mechanics of the capo (vs agraffe)? Or is it because of the frequencies in the capo area; and if so, is this a matter of physics or psychophysics? Bass strings often exhibit warbles, beats and whines at high frequencies. These problems originate in the string itself, not in the rest of the piano. Does this bear any relation to sound anomalies in plainwire strings? Ed Sutton
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