Long term pitch drop, was: Type O

[PAULREVENKOJONES]

Light fixturesDavid:

I appreciate your positive message here, and I agree, and it's been my experience as well as a long time brass player (trombone); at the same time I would wish that major manufacturers might pay a bit more attention to what is happening among the bright stars out in the cosmic piano field. If only they would think a bit more laterally (improve the existing pianos) than vertically (create more levels of marketable objects), perhaps they'd sell more pianos. Perhaps not, but at least the piano industry as whole and pianists would be better served. Thanks for the observation.


"If you want to know the truth, stop having opinions" (Chinese fortune cookie)


In a message dated 02/23/07 06:43:06 Central Standard Time, dporritt at mail.smu.edu writes:

 
 
 
 
Paul:
 
This is the way of all the top instruments.  The top French horns, flutes, violins etc. are all made in very small shops.  The fact that we now have a few pianos being made this way is progress.  The best factory made instruments of any type will never approach the small shop output in quality.  It’s just that in our history this phenomenon has excluded pianos.  Now it doesn’t!
 
dp
 
David M. Porritt
dporritt at smu.edu



From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of PAULREVENKOJONES
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 1:34 AM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: Re: Long term pitch drop, was: Type O
 
Ric, and all:
 
One of real eye-openers from the Rochester rebuilder's showcase was the amazing number of innovations possible with stunning results in most cases. But it also occurred to me, while I was there and since, that because of the economics of factory production (as a well as shareholder pressure from public companies) that in five years we'll be lucky to see any of the innovations adopted or brought into the mainstream. It's a conservative crowd, and understandable given the costs of production and the nature of the market. But isn't it too bad that we'll see most of the really deeply considered ideas expressed in only limited numbers from the onesy-twosy shops. But thanks to all of the people who did the thinking and making!
 
Paul
 
"If you want to know the truth, stop having opinions" (Chinese fortune cookie)
 
 
In a message dated 02/23/07 01:15:59 Central Standard Time, ricb at pianostemmer.no writes:
I would think that if there is one thing the piano industry has itself 
proven over time is that the absolute best that can be built is not the 
result of a factory manufacturing situation.  The best factories have 
done about all then could possibly do to combine the idea some form of 
mass production with the idea of hand made-craftmanship. Inherent in 
this concept is the admission that the best artisans, if left to 
themselves would be able to produce a superior instrument then can be 
produced in a factory setting. Indeed, to some degree one can still pay 
for <<extra attention>> at some of the better factories. 

Strikes me that it is entirely possible, if not highly probable, that 
the absolute best the industry has produced to date has come out of some 
small 1-2 man shop setting. 

I dont like to use words like better or best or worse often... because 
so often they are used in contexts that have to do wi! th purely 
subjective things.  But the quantifiable exists to be sure.  Ron Overs 
piano in Rochester for example.  The obvious care taken to just about 
every detail was indeed superiour to just about anything I have ever 
seen from anywhere. 

Cheers 
RicB 

   If you point of reference is the finest that the piano industry has 
   produced to date, I'll stick to my answer, Thank you very much! 

   Frank 
 
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