When I worked for the Yamaha store in Portland, I soon became known as the buzz finder. It is one of the harder parts of our job--for anybody. The main thing a person needs to find a buzz is persistence. I even remember once, about 25 years ago, Murray and I were on a tour of the US and Canada in our motorhome. We were in a library in Columbus, OH, when I suddenly thought I heard a piano being tuned. I was at a stage in my learning when I thought I heard pianos being tuned all the time! But this time it didn't stop, so I went to find the source. Sure enough there was a piano being tuned. I met Ellen Sewell who was busily tuning the piano for a community concert in the library. She greeted me enthusiastically and said, "I have this buzz, maybe you can help find it!" Together we searched, and searched and searched. Eventually we found out it was in the lock--which she had already checked before I got there. Then there was the Steinway upright in our shop. My father, Bob Hofstetter, RPT, couldn't find it, I couldn't find it, Murray couldn't find it. The California State Convention was put on by our chapter. Afterward about two dozen techs came to our place for dinner. After dinner, I challenged the group to find the buzz. They were climbing all over that piano. No one could find it. Only one man stood back, so I asked him, "Jim aren't you going to try to find our buzz for us?" So he simply said, "NO, I already know where it is." He pulled a thin, steel 6" rule out of his pocket, walked around behind the piano and showed me where the Steinway upright soundboards traditionally come unglued from the rim. So, unless you are Jim Coleman, and the piano is a Steinway upright, you have to reconcile yourself to the fact that it might just take a long time---and on the other hand, you might just be lucky and find it right off. Can you give us any more info about the piano? Diane Hofstetter ----Original Message Follows---- From: "J Patrick Draine" <jpdraine at gmail.com> Reply-To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org> To: l-bartlett at sbcglobal.net, "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org> Subject: Re: buzz Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 14:33:59 -0400 Les, I seem to remember that you may use hearing aids (I think I recall you're pretty happy with your audiologist). Given that this noise just might be in a difficult range for you, this might be a great time to employ a younger assistant for this or a followup diagnostic visit. Sometimes it is *so* hard to isolate a buzz, and an extra pair of hands is invaluable. The extra ears could help too! When you isolate what keys (at what key force) produce the buzz, assign the assistant the task of repeating that note while you push on the soundboard in suspect areas, check casters and other case parts to see if they are causing the buzz etc. Of course the buzz could be from loose screws on the key upstop rail or hammer rail (probably my first area to focus on) so you should pull the action and address this first. Pictures on the walls, stuff behind the piano if it's an upright, are also likely culprits. Screws, marbles, shards of glass under the plate. Time to voice super hard (or worn) hammers? Tighten all action (and case) screws? Twist a bass string? Replace a bass string? The list goes on and on. Invite the young Associate who lives nearby, or some other young pair of hands and ears to join you on your detective mission. Patrick Draine (who does not have an assistant but realizes sometimes I should) On 5/26/07, Leslie Bartlett <l-bartlett at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > >I have a new client next week with a "buzz". I'm not good at finding such >things, but assuming it is a wound string, how do I make SURE that is the >culprit? Is there a way to force the buzz to be louder, or to eliminate >the >buzz in that string? > >thanks >les bartlett
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