Civility should always be the goal. We are, however, a group with personalities and email does a poor job of communicating tone. Generally, the best thing is not to be thin skinned and assume the contributions are, for the most part, well intentioned. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Skolnik Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 7:44 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: [pianotech] Question of Protocol; was: but will it split Dear list - Actually, its likely only a few of you, but we can pretend. I've taken the trouble to separate what has quickly become a personal issue from any technical discussion about the installation of underlever capstans, since I've always found it disturbing when a worthwhile discussion gets derailed. I would also like to continue exercising my right to speculate, without feeling vulnerable to personal attack, as opposed to being attacked for my ideas, or lack thereof. Apart from any explanation of it's underlying source, I would like a representative response as to my question about what constitutes acceptable language and decorum on this list. Where do "crap" and "stupid" reside in the spectrum? I'm not looking for an apology. I'm looking for guidelines...something like the Pirate Code. David Skolnik Hastings on Hudson, NY At 07:52 PM 12/25/2008, you wrote: David Hear hear. Well said Dale I think the reaction comes from frustratio n with new ideas being rejected for dubious reasons: that we have always done it this way or we should be capable of doing it the old fashioned way. That’s not really the point. Of course, we should be able to regulate the damper system with tray felt, paper shims, ironing, etc. We should also be able to cut a bridge with a chisel but if we can build a power notcher that will cut the bridge in ¼ or the time and with, perhaps, greater accuracy, why resist the idea. Similarly, we should be able to set bearing on a new bridge by pounding in a couple of wedges until it “feels†right, stretching a string and cutting little slots all over the place, but if we can precalculate deflections and the accompanying required bridge height and/or use plate float systems or vertical hitches to tweak the bearing more precisely why such resistance? There are numerous other examples, many of which are frequently presented on this list. No one would argue the need for a variety of skills in all areas but neither should the possession of those skills argue for standing still. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com <http://www.davidlovepianos.com/> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org> ] On Behalf Of David Skolnik Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 9:41 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] but will it split Well, OK baby, And I thought I might escape 2008 without one of these. (DS) If you were called upon to do a fine regulation of existing dampers, would you first pull the tray and install capstans? (RN) Stupid question. If you had to regulate a system with capstans, would you pull the tray and remove them? That's two stupid questions. Now what, are we done with that crap? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech_ptg.org/attachments/20081226/8aaa13bf/attachment.html>
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