[pianotech] wurzen front punching felt

David Andersen david at davidandersenpianos.com
Wed Dec 31 07:23:51 PST 2008


My insult-spewing, conclusion-jumping, unobservant, unaware colleague,  
"John," has put his toe in a pond he knows nothing about. Okay,  
"John," here's the story. Your first comment, and now this one,  
assures us that you know nothing about this man Jurgen---a most  
giving, most supportive piano technician, father, and friend---or his  
business, Pianoforte Supply, one of the best suppliers to the high end  
of our craft. I've seen his ads in PTJ.  "John," why don't you attempt  
to bum another whole group of people out somewhere else with your hand- 
grenade-throwing, know-nothing statements? Just a thought: please  
don't make your psychological problems our cross to bear. K?
David Andersen
proud colleague of Jurgen Goering


On Dec 30, 2008, at 8:59 PM, pianotek2000 at aol.com wrote:

> My comment could have been better worded.  The intent was to point  
> out that Jurgen's outfit contributes nothing to the industry, not  
> that he personally is a nothing.  I don't know him.  There are  
> people in our industry who genuinely give and those that only take.   
> I've never seen pianoforte company run an ad, sponsor a major class  
> or support the industry.  They only try to skim off the efforts of  
> others.  Look at the January PTG Journal just delivered.  Companies  
> like Yamaha, Schaff, Renner, etc. , all run the big ads in our  
> Journal that support us and help make the PTG possible.  Schaff told  
> me that most of their business comes from non PTG members.  I'm sure  
> the same is true with Renner, so why do they do that.  Renner told  
> me they do it because they believe the PTG represents the best  
> opportuntity to continue raise the level of professionalisim in this  
> trade.  I'm only suggesting that Jurgen starts supporting us the way  
> the other companies do and not just use the LIst in lieu of  
> advertising.  As far as responding to a question about his products,  
> Mike, that's one of the oldes setups on the List.  Jurgen's not the  
> first one to try it.  I'm only pointing out the obvious.  We're in a  
> shrinking business, and I'm grateful for the companies that continue  
> to invest and grow our business and less tolerant of the companies  
> like Pianoforte who only take.
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Spalding <m ike.spalding1 at verizon.net>
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 9:35 pm
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] wurzen front punching felt
>
> Dear John,
>
> Personally, I have no objection to Jurgen responding to questions  
> about his products in this manner. I'm bothered more by gratuitous  
> insults such as "you're a nothing".
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Mike Spalding
>
> pianotek2000 at aol.com wrote:
> > The list shouldn't be used for this kind of blatant  
> commercialization. > Run an ad, Jurgen, and quit using the list to  
> sell your products. > You're a nothing in this industry.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jurgen Goering <pianoforte at pianofortesupply.com>
> > To: pianotech at ptg.org
> > Sent: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:58 pm
> > Subject: Re: [pianotech] wurzen front punching felt
> >
> > Ry Sowers asked about how the Crescendo Punchings are being  
> received. > The short answer is "very well, thank you", judging by  
> the sales
> > numbers. Admittedly, it is mainly the high end rebuilders who use
> > this punching almost exclusively. As has been noted, there are cases
> > where the Crescendos may not be the best option, and of course
> > personal preference always plays into it as well.
> >
> >
> > The fact that top end companies such as Steingraeber (and others)  
> are
> > using this felt is an unspoken endorsement. For more user opinions  
> on
> > Crescendos, see:
> >
> > http://www.pianofortesupply.com/cresc.testimonia.html
> >
> >
> > Someone mentioned ironing the conventional green punchings. I have
> > also heard of using hammer hardener on FR punchings. To suggest this
> > as an alternative to Crescendo punchings is naive. The Crescendo  
> felt
> > has a certain firmness and density, but the proprietary felting  
> method
> > used, which is akin to the famous Wurzen hammer felt, preserves the
> > natural resilience of the wool fiber. Pressing felt with heat will
> > destroy the resilience which is needed to cushion the key blow.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <smaller>Jurgen Goering
> >
> > Piano Forte Supply
> >
> > (250) 754-2440
> >
> > info at pianofortesupply.com <mailto:info at pianofortesupply.com>
> >
> > http:// www.pianofortesupply.com</smaller <http://www.pianofortesupply.com%3c/smaller 
> >>
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