You have to be careful here that you're not creating a potential liability in order to try and save a few dollars. It might well cost you more in the long run. David Love davidlovepianos at comcast.net www.davidlovepianos.com -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of erwinspiano at aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:53 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: A remedy for Verdigris Well all good points. Yes it's in the wood surrounding the bushing but on extreme cases it seems to have crept into the wood. Here's the deal I have two sets of 20's wippens that are absolutely free of verdigris. & third that is not. SO if the gunk is in the flange only then new flanges would solve the problem. Maybe they didn't get the gunk. They are well preserved & frictions & pinning are excellent. As you say this would be in rare situations such as an econo job, not something I would usually subscribe to but I hate wasting what seems like salvageable technology when feasible. Thanks for the feedback Dale It's a reasonable idea that might make sense in rare situations--though I'm not sure what those would be--, but in general, not worth the effort and too many potential liabilities. At least that's my view. If you're not sentimental about original designs, there's certainly no reason to get sentimental about original wippens with verdigris. David Love davidlovepianos at comcast.net www.davidlovepianos.com <http://www.davidlovepianos.com/> Original message From: erwinspiano at aol.com To: pianotech at ptg.org Received: 3/14/2008 7:45:02 PM Subject: A remedy for Verdigris Hey all I know ...I know there is no remedy for verdigris .... except a new parts transplant... but the other day my 83 year old Dad & I were looking a perfectly useable set of vintage Steinway wippens except for the mild case of creeping green crud so, We were lamenting having to toss a beautiful set of original Steinway wippens in the trash. We started brainstorming how we could solve this given the contamination is in the wood. Now I know many of us have re-pinned & re- bushed ...put on new flanges etc. & in the end all for nothing as it returns, But with a good set of wippens approaching 1000 bucks the idea has my attention. I told my Dad I was thinking about how to cut out the birds eye & then machine a new insert with birds eye & all. My thought was that if the new insert was put in with epoxy that this would act as a verdigris barrier from entering back into the new wood. Then My Pops says "why not just coat the existing birds eye with epoxy & slide a coated pin thru the hole to seal up the exposed inner wood which should prove de a barrier to any further contamination". Then pin on new flanges. I thought the idea had merit. I mean for a few short hours of pinning & coating an original set of beautifully made & machined maple wippens could be preserved & re-used at any level of performance required. How bout some discussion. Dale _____ Supercharge your AIM. Get the AIM <http://download.aim.com/client/aimtoolbar?NCID=aolcmp00300000002586> toolbar for your browser. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20080315/c9b863cd/attachment.html
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