[pianotech] technical question was Re: Proposed California Sales Tax on Furniture Repair

[Michael Magness]

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:20 PM, <wimblees at aol.com> wrote:

> Gerry
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> I guess the law and doctor lobbyists had deeper pockets to exclude them.
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> Now, to get technical. You say, "We (piao tuners, shop mechanics, etc.)
> proved a service (labor) on a tangible piece of property."  If you gave an
> estimate or appraised a piano, would that be considered a service on a
> tangible piece of property, or a "professional service?"
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> Wim
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerald Cousins <cousins_gerry at msn.com>
> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 2:36 pm
> Subject: [pianotech] Proposed California Sales Tax on Furniture Repair
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> For what it's worth,
> New York State *requires* the collection of sales tax on all labor on
> pianos.
> Years ago I had a very healthy debate with Geo. Pitaki (before he became
> gov. of the state.)
> My side stated that if I had to collect sales tax on my labor then Doctors,
> Lawyers and even accountants should have to collect the taxes too. I lost
> the debate.
> In fact the law is actually written to exempt "Professionals" such as
> Doctors etc. and, for those who are curious, they do not consider ladies of
> the evening part of that group. grin
> We (piao tuners, shop mechanics, etc.) proved a service (labor) on a
> tangible piece of property and the law is written to collect sales tax in
> that instance.
> Yes it was a pain. Yes I did spend a bunch of time working as a NY state
> revenue collection service. Yes I was even audited by the sales tax
> commission. No fun either. But as tehy say, "you can't fight city hall"
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> Only suggestion is to to try to defeat the law before it's passed.
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> Good luck with THAT especially in California!
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> Gerry Cousins, RPT
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> *From:* pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] *On
> Behalf Of *David Ilvedson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:11 AM
> *To:* pianotech at ptg.org
> *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] Proposed California Sales Tax on Furniture
> Repair
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> *Broadening the Sales and Use Tax to Include Certain Services*: Effective
> February 1, 2009, the sales and use tax rate will be applied to appliance
> and furniture repair, vehicle repair, golf, and veterinarian services.
> Effective March 1, 2009, the sales and use tax rate will be applied to
> amusement parks and sporting events. This is expected to generate additional
> General Fund sales tax
> revenue of $357 million in 2008-09.
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> David Ilvedson, RPT
> Pacifica, CA 94044
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> Original message
> From: "David Love"
> To:
> Received: 11/18/2008 8:11:51 AM
> Subject: [pianotech] Proposed California Sales Tax on Furniture Repair
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> California techs.  Does anyone know if the current proposal by our
> governator to impose sales tax on furniture repair include us?
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> David Love
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> www.davidlovepianos.com
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I could give a rat's behind what Doctors, lawyers and accountants have to
do.
Since we mostly work on an hourly basis why not ask about the plumber,
electrician or other tradesman?

Mike
-- 
I intend to live forever. So far, so good.
Steven Wright


Michael Magness
Magness Piano Service
608-786-4404
www.IFixPianos.com
email mike at ifixpianos.com
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