Ron, Your world is much like my world. Even though I use an ETD and can show the customer just how far off the piano is when I get there I try to satisfy their criteria not my own. I'm certainly glad that I'm not a customer of anyone who employs such stringent rules for their tunings. I'd feel so ... used. Greg Newell Greg's Piano Forté www.gregspianoforte.com 216-226-3791 (office) 216-470-8634 (mobile) Actually, I meant the other way. I don't have a clientèle that will tolerate two pitch correction fees a year no matter how wretched their climate control is. Schools, churches, or individuals, I need to be able to satisfy them (not me, or some established testing criteria) in one pass for a standard tuning price - or in the case of a couple of universities, a reduced price. That means the best shot in one pass in 45 minutes to 60 minutes for the private tuning, to 35-50 minutes for university bulk work. Trying to do concert level work in these instances is like doing ice sculpture in a desert sandstorm, and these people know this. For the most part, they've tried plenty of other tuners, and settled on me because I can do what for them is an acceptable (or better) tuning in minimum time at a price that's higher than they've paid anyone else, when no one else has met the standards at any price they've been willing to test. It's value for the money. I can't pack sand up the administration's collective, uh, canyon, and try to convince them that paying for pitch adjustments will net them a significantly better tuning for more than the time it takes to flush the excess sand from the canyon. They've seen the pianos go out of tune by Tuesday, if they ever were in any semblance of tune in the first place, and aren't impressed by a dog and pony shows from the other guys. If the piano was last tuned at 75%RH, and it's not (momentarily) 23%RH, I'll give it my best shot one pass, and they'll either understand and appreciate it, or pay me to perpetually and futilely do multiple pass pitch corrections. I won't do multiple passes without pay for the time and equipment wear. So far, they've been *thrilled* with the results, for between 10 and 20 years respectively. A first tuning for a new client, I'll do, and charge for, the pitch raise to get the piano into the loop. After that, we'll find the balance between climate control, price, and performance that works for them. My world, Ron N
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