[pianotech] Brands prone to breaking plates

perrys piano restorations perrymark at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 17 08:22:20 PDT 2009


Hello All!

 

I don't have the experience of having a plate breaking on me while tuning.... thank goodness.... however, I have seen and reluctantly worked on many repaired Bechstein plates.  It is sortof un-fair to classify a brand name with problems such as this..... based on one small fact.  the weakness of a plate can be determined from various causes starting from an inconsistent or even "cold" pour, to a weak spot or impurity (slag) in the casting.  It is also true that plates of older vintages were often poured into un-controlled molds.  this means the mold may have been colder than a desired temperature.  When hot molten metal is poured, if it is allowed to cool slowly, it remains maleable.  The quicker cooling outer layer of poured metal that touches a cold mold however, can cause a layer of hard brittle metal.  This is called a "case depth".  Case depth heat treating can be important when intentionally designed into something.  ie: bearing shafts are case depth hardened and ground to a polish look.   In a piano plate, it may cause thinner areas of cast to be brittle and prone to breakage.  so thats my $0.02 worth.

 

God Bless,

Mark Perry

www.carvedpianoparts.com

 
> From: pianoman at accessus.net
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:01:22 -0500
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Brands prone to breaking plates
> 
> So far, I have had only 1 plate break on me while tuning. It was back in 
> the early 1960s and I was tuning an Estey console (used) the day before 
> delivery at Aeolian Co. of MO. All of a sudden CRACK as I had just made 
> the jump to the treble section from the middle. That model Estey has no 
> flange area on the perimeter of the plate. The plate is almost flat. My 
> employers gave me the piano and I used its casework and used it to reframe 
> my bathroom window. Probably the only bathroom window made of genuine 
> veneered mahogany.
> James
> James Grebe
> Since 1962
> Piano Tuning & Repair
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ryan Sowers" <tunerryan at gmail.com>
> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:25 AM
> Subject: [pianotech] Brands prone to breaking plates
> 
> 
> > Oh wise list,
> >
> > I remember Jack Wyatt listing off a bunch of piano brands that are 
> > notorious
> > for breaking plates. It would be great to compile a master list of these
> > pianos and have them published for the benefit of posterity.
> >
> > Let the list begin! What brands should we watch out for?
> >
> > -- 
> > Ryan Sowers, RPT
> > Puget Sound Chapter
> > Olympia, WA
> > www.pianova.net
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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