[pianotech] bass strings installation

[Paul T Williams]

David
I found agreeably that most well made bass strings shouldn't need the 
twist.  but the last two from Arledge did indeed need it.  Only 1 twist 
instead of the old timer's 1.5 or even 2.  The Baldwin R that I just 
replaced with Mapes had no luck with twisting, no twisting, or twisting 2 
times.  I think I'll send them back...Just the 3 bi-chords in the lower 
treble.. The rest were fine.  HOWEVER...The downbearing just in this spot 
was not very good.  Perhaps it's that???? the immediate plain wire strings 
from there up are just fine. It's not the hammers.  The pluck test shows 
that they're tubby.  But all 3 bi-chords only??  Seems like this is a 
bridge issue...How then would the rest of lower treble bridge make such a 
great sound? I Wapinized the whole thing, and the sustain, after all the 
extra work, is just great and am happy with the piano in general. Can a 
bridge have loss of downbearing just in that spot?  I'm really perplexed 
on this one, unless it's just 6 bad bass strings...

Advise from all wecome!

Paul





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They probably don't.  JD Grandt (who I use) suggests only a 1/2 twist.
Probably that's just to insure that the string is not twisted in the wrong
direction by accident.  Since I twist from the pin (not from the loop) I
tend to give them a full twist otherwise I'd have to pound the pin in 
upside
down. 

David Love
www.davidlovepianos.com

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From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On 
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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [pianotech] bass strings installation

Tom:

I generally don't twist bass strings.  If I install one and it sounds like
it needs a twist I'll do it, that of course makes an extra step but if I 
had
very many that need twisting, I'd contemplate a different string maker.  I
think well made bass strings shouldn't need twisting.

dp


David M. Porritt, RPT
dporritt at smu.edu

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From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On 
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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:34 PM
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Paul

I think there is a difference. One way requires that I pick up a pair of 
vice grips to apply the twist to the loop end. The pin end already has 
the tool conveniently attached.

As for the commute, I use slave labor to feed me bass strings.

Question: How important is it to twist bass strings? Does it depend on 
who made the strings?

Tom Cole

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> There are those who put the twist in the pin end, but it makes no 
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