Bernhard No, the point is that you just dont seem to be able to accept that I came up with my own P-12ths idea without any knowledge of you or your work nor being influenced by you in any way. It was nearly 10 years ago now and it does matter exactly given the kind of accusations you keep leveling at me. Since you were unwilling to see the obvious truth of this from reading my early posts on the subject and pressed me to produce some evidence of other influence I did so. How anyone could read Gary's article and conclude anything else then that he was working with 12ths and 19th priority tuning rather then octave priority is beyond me... And indeed... he says this outright himself. It is no feat of genius to go from there to simply tuning the whole piano by twelfths, dividing some middle 12th up into the 19th root of three as a starting point.... just a cute idea that happened to work. And yes... I shared this idea with others.... naturally enough. As I said... I dont give a hoot about who's first and have never claimed to be first myself. To what degree Garys article or any other that surfaces constitutes prior knowledge in the context you are concerned about is not for me to judge... nor do I care. Gary's article would have no doubt stayed hidden in its 1982 journal had you not just accepted that I didnt know anything about you or your work. So whatever authenticity issues there are now out in the world are things you have yourself to thank for I am afraid. Once again... for my part I acknowledge that you were ... what 12 years ahead of me with this idea ? But I will not accept these insinuations that I deliberately and knowingly pirated this idea from you or have tried to "construct a prior art myth" of any kind. Garys article stands on its own. Can we stop this now ? RicB The point is, that you came out on the list with this "new" tuning idea about six years ago (+-, it doesn´t matter exactly). As i jumped on the list to enlighten you that there was published work by me on the matter, it was apparantly quite hard for you to accept this fact. All your writing about the matter in return had the intention to "construct" a prior art myth before my work in return. You did not even hesitate to twist the truth for that attempt. In no place in Gary Schulze´s article he expresses his intention to set up a pure twelfth temperament. He is presenting an equal temperament of the 31th root of six, to achieve as much as intervals as pure as possible. The formula you formerly presented on the CAUT list as "prove", simply expressed not what you wanted to interpreted from it. Bernhard Stopper
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