[pianotech] Hammer Line Issue

PianoCare2 pianocare2 at bigpond.com
Mon May 11 05:20:51 MDT 2009


May I add some suggestions after reading about this problem last week whilst
on a family holiday at Broadbeach.. I decided that the beach was more
important.

There have been some suggestions that the jack is not clearing the hammer
butt and now causing the hammers to bobble. Matthew has adjusted the let off
and lost motion. 1/16 let off is ok in the bass, but may I suggest looking
up Kawai specs. 2.5, 2 and 1.5 mm for let off. Someone has suggested to
increase the aftertouch by removing front touch paper punchings. After
observing the hammer line to be all over the place, the first place I would
look would be measure the hammer striking distance.. or your hammer blow. 46
mm from string to tip of hammer. Checking this and then adjusting the
position of the hammer rest rail would be the first place which I would
look.

My preference in doing this all would be removing the action and keys.
Looking at condition of keyframe felts..and condition of keybed. some came
loose.

Fit action and measure hammer strike. It may help to change to 45mm.  Adjust
by moving hammer rail and gluing felt to the felt blocks. I forgot. inspect
condition of hammer rest cloth. Adjust let off and then damper spoon lift..
This is how it is done in the factory. Then remove action  and then re fit
keys. How is the balance rail and keyhole.. Tight? Cleaning the key pins is
a great idea.

Adjust capstans. yes, Kawai uprights require a little lost motion. The
method mentioned of hammers moving backwards a little when the hammer rail
is pulled backwards is correct. Another way is to trip the jack slowly and
make sure the jack slides under the hammer butt. What about the jack stop
rail ?  Is there clearance? That's a trick that was played on all
apprentices. We never forgot after that.

Hammer catching (checking) 15mm or 5/8 inch.. You could go a little smaller,
but Kawai's 15 mm is a slightly large 15 mm.

The damper spoon lift in the factory is quite early, so I would not be too
concerned about making the damper lift later.

After all these adjustments, you can then tell if this problem is keyboard
related i.e. the level of the keys and then I would look at key dip. Seems
strange to me that a tech would have previously made the key dip shallow..
Older Kawai's were 10.5mm .

I do not know if there is a geometry problem with this action, but there is
not much you can do about it, since the price to change would be more than
the present market value. The actions worked when new and the piano was at
the lower price end of Kawai's models.

Shouldn't have too many problems now however check the cushion (red) felt
under the hammer butt leather. Some later models the felt expanded and the
leather has a bump, and also check the end of the butt leather (further up
the leather). My 1994 125cm upright has that and I do have problems with
bobbling hammers..I decreased the strike distance. I am replacing the hammer
assembly soon.

As with tonality, it is hard to judge tone on an action that is not working
correctly, and maybe that this piano hasn't been voiced in about 20 years.
Are the original hammers no underfelt on white wood or underfelt on
mahogany? Hopefully they aren't the underfelted white wood with green
impregnation..  they were hard as goats knees then!!

I think I have left something else out but still in holiday mode..

Brian Wilson

 

 

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From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Ed Sutton
Sent: Monday, 11 May 2009 7:15 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Hammer Line Issue

 

Here's Matthew's first post:

 

>I went to tune a clients piano today.  It is a Kawai Console, year 1986.
 
>The very first thing I noticed was the hammer line was totally screwed up.
Some of the hammers were resting on the rail, and others were off the >rail.
I unscrewed the action bracket nuts and pulled the action back a little
until all the hammers were resting on the rail. "

 

What is the likelihood that the piano had overly strong damper flanges,
un-noticed for 22 years ?  The customer didn't complain of bobbling hammers.
That problem occurred after Matthew adjusted the capstans and let-off. We
are into the second or third stage of treatment without diagnosis.

 

ES
 

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