On Sat, 16 May 2009 19:57:47 -0500 "Ken & Pat Gerler" <kenneth.gerler at prodigy.net> wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Larry, > I hope by now you have solved the problem. I ran into this on a Story > & Clark made by Yamaha. When the piano was moved the movers "swapped" > the legs unknowingly. I looked at the legs an noted a hole in the rear > of each leg. Found a way to prop the piano and swapped the legs and > was then able to access the cheekblock hold-down screw accessible > through that hole in the leg. > > Ken Gerler Ken, Larry I had a slightly different permutation of this issue. On an old Welte grand (no, not the player - Thank G-d) the legs were held on by 2 screws each - no leg plates. The screws, of course, stripped out and some genius just drilled new screwholes in a different location - the block screws thus being obscured by the relocation of the legs. Since I had the piano in my shop for restringing and some action work, I convinced the guy to have leg pl;ates put in. the piano movers helped out by telling the guy when they moved the piano that the setup he had was not safe. i had the movers turn the piano over onto movers pads (much safer than working with the piano on its side) and I installed leg and lyre plates - which located the front legs back where they were supposed to be and made the thing safe, here in earthquake country. I'm not sure the piano was worth all the money he put into it - but he insisted. Anyway, fitting, locating and attaching the leg plates was a fun job, especially since the cutouts for the plates were already there (had to enlarge them a bit, though). I don't understand why they made the cutouts for the plates at the factory - but never put them in ... Israel Stein > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Trischetta" > <ltpianoman at comcast.net> > To: <pianotech at ptg.org> > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:07 PM > Subject: [pianotech] Cheek Block removal question... > > >> Hi...I'm trying to find out how to remove the cheek blocks (for action >> removal) on a 1986 Story & Clark baby grand ser.# 901037. There are no >> screws underneath and nothing under the rubber button on the cheek >> block. >> Also, there are no screws under the key slip. Maybe I need new glasses. >> Thanks for any help offered. >> >> Larry Trischetta, Pocono NE Chapter >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > [pianotech] FW: RE: New Ask Physicist question > From: > "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> > Date: > Sat, 16 May 2009 18:49:03 -0700 > To: > pianotech at ptg.org, caut at ptg.org > > To: > pianotech at ptg.org, caut at ptg.org > > > List... > > Here is the reply I received from "The Physicist"...whoever that is... '-] > > David Ilvedson > > ----- This is a forwarded message ---------------------------------------- > From: "the physicist" <the_physicist at askthephysicist.com> > To: ilvey at sbcglobal.net > Received: 5/16/2009 1:17:39 PM > Subject: RE: New Ask Physicist question > > > A transducer normally refers to something which converts mechanical > vibrations into electrical vibrations. I would call the instruments you > refer to as amplifying the sound. There is more to it than that since they > also filter various components, that is they amplify some frequencies better > than others. > > The Physicist > @AskThePhysicist.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: ilvey at sbcglobal.net [mailto:ilvey at sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:45 PM > To: the_physicist at askthephysicist.com > Subject: New Ask Physicist question > > user_email -- ilvey at sbcglobal.net > question -- Is an acoustic piano soundboard an amplifier or a transducer? > The same would be for any musical instrument soundboard...guitar, violin.... > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [pianotech] Cheek Block removal question... > From: > "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> > Date: > Sat, 16 May 2009 18:57:09 -0700 > To: > pianotech at ptg.org, kenneth.gerler at prodigy.net > > To: > pianotech at ptg.org, kenneth.gerler at prodigy.net > > > Done the same thing...a pain, but you come out a hero... > > David Ilvedson, RPT > Pacifica, CA 94044 > > ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- > From: "Ken & Pat Gerler" <kenneth.gerler at prodigy.net> > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Received: 5/16/2009 5:57:47 PM > Subject: Re: [pianotech] Cheek Block removal question... > > > >> Larry, >> I hope by now you have solved the problem. I ran into this on a Story & >> Clark made by Yamaha. When the piano was moved the movers "swapped" the legs >> unknowingly. I looked at the legs an noted a hole in the rear of each leg. >> Found a way to prop the piano and swapped the legs and was then able to >> access the cheekblock hold-down screw accessible through that hole in the >> leg. >> > > >> Ken Gerler >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Larry Trischetta" <ltpianoman at comcast.net> >> To: <pianotech at ptg.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:07 PM >> Subject: [pianotech] Cheek Block removal question... >> > > > >>> Hi...I'm trying to find out how to remove the cheek blocks (for action >>> removal) on a 1986 Story & Clark baby grand ser.# 901037. There are no >>> screws underneath and nothing under the rubber button on the cheek block. >>> Also, there are no screws under the key slip. Maybe I need new glasses. >>> Thanks for any help offered. >>> >>> Larry Trischetta, Pocono NE Chapter >>> >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [pianotech] Cheek Block removal question... > From: > "Tom Driscoll" <tomtuner at verizon.net> > Date: > Sat, 16 May 2009 22:01:37 -0400 > To: > "Ken & Pat Gerler" <kenneth.gerler at prodigy.net>, <pianotech at ptg.org> > > To: > "Ken & Pat Gerler" <kenneth.gerler at prodigy.net>, <pianotech at ptg.org> > > > > Subject: Re: [pianotech] Cheek Block removal question... > > >> Larry, >> I hope by now you have solved the problem. I ran into this on a Story >> & Clark made by Yamaha. When the piano was moved the movers "swapped" >> the legs unknowingly. I looked at the legs an noted a hole in the >> rear of each leg. Found a way to prop the piano and swapped the legs >> and was then able to access the cheekblock hold-down screw accessible >> through that hole in the leg. >> >> Ken Gerler >> >> Ken, > Good answer. Happened to me twice and one was one of those Yamaha > Story and Clarks.There was a carpenter working at the house and we > enlisted him to make a rectangular frame of 2 by 6's with plywood > gussets on the corners. With nail guns the contraption took about 10 > minutes to make and was an inch taller than the bottom of the keybed.. > With his help we lifted the piano up while the customer moved the > device underneath. Quick work to swap front legs . Fun stuff. > Tom Driscoll RPT > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [pianotech] Soundboard > From: > Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net> > Date: > Sat, 16 May 2009 23:55:56 -0500 > To: > pianotech at ptg.org > > To: > pianotech at ptg.org > > > Richard wrote: >> I have a client who just got a Weinbach? 6ft4 grand online from Arizona. >> He is in NJ. I went to tune it last week and he was complaining about >> rattling >> In the board. I did hear it, went under and tightened any bridge >> screws but it is still there. >> Will it possibly go away after more time in a higher humidity area? >> Any suggestions? > > It may possibly go away in higher humidity. But like my recurring > dream of a terminal free fall velocity soft landing of a refrigerator > sized solid platinum meteorite in my back yard, it ain't likely to pan > out. As the technician at ground zero, you're going to have to > identify the cause, rather than hope it goes away, or bow out and > disappear. > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > Do you get reduced rates for announcing it? > Ron N > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [pianotech] FW: RE: New Ask Physicist question > From: > Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net> > Date: > Sat, 16 May 2009 23:17:35 -0500 > To: > David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>, pianotech at ptg.org > > To: > David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>, pianotech at ptg.org > CC: > caut at ptg.org > > > David Ilvedson wrote: >> List... >> >> Here is the reply I received from "The Physicist"...whoever that >> is... '-] >> >> David Ilvedson >> >> ----- This is a forwarded message >> ---------------------------------------- >> From: "the physicist" <the_physicist at askthephysicist.com> >> To: ilvey at sbcglobal.net >> Received: 5/16/2009 1:17:39 PM >> Subject: RE: New Ask Physicist question >> >> >> A transducer normally refers to something which converts mechanical >> vibrations into electrical vibrations. I would call the instruments you >> refer to as amplifying the sound. There is more to it than that since >> they >> also filter various components, that is they amplify some frequencies >> better >> than others. >> >> The Physicist >> @AskThePhysicist.com > > Well, that's about as cogent and useful as I expected. > Ron N > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [pianotech] Cheek Block removal question... > From: > "David Nereson" <da88ve at gmail.com> > Date: > Sun, 17 May 2009 03:22:46 -0600 > To: > <pianotech at ptg.org> > > To: > <pianotech at ptg.org> > > > I've done that just using the piano bench and a couple phone books. > Make sure the leg bolt nuts are tight. Customer helped me lift it up > while we slid phone books under the key bed. It's only on there for a > few minutes. Another experienced tech told me he'd done it that way > many times. Swapped the front legs, which made the key block screws > accessible, and thus the action removable. > --David Nereson, RPT > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech mailing list > pianotech at ptg.org > http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20090517/89e58d2e/attachment-0001.htm>
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