Tom,
Amen J!
Cheers,
Bruce Gibson
Saskatoon, SK
Canada
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2. Re: age-old question of what to charge for almost
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running a business as a business (Thomas Cole)
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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:37:50 EST
From: keykat88 at aol.com
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Subject: Re: [pianotech] personal question- where did you learn PT?
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Greetings,
Since 1976 I was a machine designer; on the drawing board and in
later years we designed using AutoCad. In 2002, I learned basic piano
tuning/repairs from the University of Western Ontario. I still read piano
technology and related books and do web searches as well . Regional PTG
conventions
have very helpful classes. Also I've played the piano since I could walk.
Follow your heart.
Julia
PA, USA
In a message dated 1/14/2010 11:39:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
yiddishtangofever at shaw.ca writes:
As a current student of Piano Technology, trying to carve out my path of
learning on Vancouver Island BC?. I wonder where different people have
gained
their knowledge. If you would like to share your experience I would be
thrilled? because there is so much knowledge and talent on this forum!!
Thanks
Zoe
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:19:31 -0800
From: Thomas Cole <tcole at cruzio.com>
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] age-old question of what to charge
for almost
nothing and running a business as a business
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Mr. Groot,
You've been saying over and over what other technicians should do, but
how does that impact you? If your business is good and growing, what
skin is it off of your nose that people haven't acquired the business
acumen you have? And why would you complain continually to this list
when it might do some good to speak to the technicians you are referring
to? Or maybe a better approach is to give some technical presentations
to your local chapter with practical advice on how to improve one's income.
There is a whole continuum of piano technicians ranging from part time
hobbyists charging little or no money, to full-time technicians making a
six figure income. If some of the hobbyists are complaining about a lack
of income, they may have a problem with low self-esteem or maybe their
work is substandard and with the help of some compassionate mentoring
could improve their skills and self-esteem. Are you going to continue to
focus on the problem or come up with some solutions?
Tom Cole
Gerald Groot wrote:
>
> ... The only thing that I AM VERY HARD LINED ON is that more piano
technicians
> need to run this business like a business or learn how. Yet, many do not
> run it as such. These same people do not know how to run it as a business
> or in my opinion, do not take it very seriously that it is a business.
They
> need to stick to the principal of charging when appropriate, which is,
most
> of the time. They should not be afraid to charge and especially, should
not
> apologize for doing so. As another poster mentioned, the owners of other
> businesses will not allow their employee's to show up for free or to
charge
> less for obvious reasons.
>
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