[pianotech] Renotching-Repinning-Reusing Bridges in rebuild

David Ilvedson ilvey at sbcglobal.net
Wed Jan 20 21:09:20 MST 2010


Do any manufacturers sand/file the bridge pins level?

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Received: 1/20/2010 7:39:02 PM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Renotching-Repinning-Reusing Bridges in rebuild


>Not meant as a criticism, just a comment.  I'm usually exchanging #6 pins
>for # 7 at least in the capo section on many pianos so it requires a drill
>out anyway.  Similarly, most bridges extend #7 pins down through the tenor
>and I often go up one size to #8s with predrilling to insure a tight fit.
>Also, drilling out insures I don't have to grind down the tops of the pins.
>Maybe it doesn't heat them up or stress them but there is a difference
>between string pressure and file or belt sander pressure, namely that the
>string applies pressure nearer the cap.  The file or belt sander applies
>pressure at the very top of the pin which can be quite a ways from the cap.
>Some flagpolling can take place which can stress the fit at the cap.  In
>general, I don't file or sand the tops of the pins for that reason.    

> 

>David Love

>www.davidlovepianos.com

> 

>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
>Of William Monroe
>Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:11 PM
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Renotching-Repinning-Reusing Bridges in rebuild

> 

>Sure, each their own.  For the most part I guess it feels like trading one
>task for another.  Epoxy size the hole and drill out, or dip the pin and
>drive in?  Probably a wash for me.  Yes, you really do need to wear gloves
>when driving in the pins and shoe-shining the cap, but it's really a very
>localized process for me.

>As for stressing the pins, unless you really bear down on the pins, or sit
>in one place, there is no danger of lateral stress or overheating.
>Certainly nothing approaching what the strings themselves do, I would think.
>I've heard the arguments, and I think it's a reasonable concern, but as with
>most things in this biz, if you use appropriate care with this process,
>there is no cause for concern.

>I certainly don't think my was is the only way, or the "better" way, just
>one that works for me.

>William R. Monroe

>  

>On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:02 PM, David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
>wrote:

>I used to do the epoxy in the pins thing but decided there wasn't much
>reason for having to deal with the mess.  By sizing the holes even slightly
>with epoxy and reinforcing the wood you can run a drill quickly down through
>to insure uniform depth and diameter and a clean surface.  After that,
>inserting the pins and just securing with a drop of thin CA is plenty to
>secure them.  I don't particularly like to file or belt sand the pins as I
>think there's no need to either heat them up or put lateral stress on what
>should be a tight fit.  

> 

>David Love

> 

> 


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