[pianotech] Thanks and further comments

Israel Stein custos3 at comcast.net
Thu Feb 3 19:37:21 MST 2011




>Feb 02/03/11 1:55 PM Avery Todd wrote: 

>Even though I use an ETD some, using the pitch raise function ONLY with an ETD on a 300 cent 
>pitch raise, I'd be a little nervous about the amount of overpull. Depending on the age and condition 
>of the piano. Maybe it's just me, though. 

Avery 

I don't know which ETD you use, but on the Cybertuner, there is a ceiling on overpulls - when you reach that ceiling, the "overpull percentage" indicator changes colors, to tell you that the overpull is not enough to compensate for the amount of pitch raise but that it is an arbitrary ceiling, to prevent string breakage. 

There are three pitch raise ranges on the Cybertuner - small (up to 60 c) medium (60-100 c) and large (100 c +). When the "large" is selected, the program doesn't even attempt to get you close to the target pitch - as that could in many cases cause an overpull beyond the string's break point. All it does is get you to where you could use one of the other pitch raise functions effectively, to get close to the target pitch on a second pass. So all this talk about 300 cent one-pass pitch raises with a Cybertuner is just an indicator of incorrect Cybertuner usage, with predictably poor results. Someone aspiring to "respect as a professional" on the basis of skills totally dependent on technology he or she "trusts" should at least know its limitations and its proper use, as recommended by the inventor/distributor... 

Israel Stein 




On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Mr. Mac's < tune-repair at allegiance.tv > wrote: 


On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote: 

> With that kind of pitch raise, I would tell the customer that I would 
> have to come back in 2-3 weeks do do another tuning. 
> 
> Some actually have me come back - and - others don't care and are 
> satisfied with the way it sounds. These are probably the ones that have 
> it tuned every 10-20 years. 
> 
> 99% of the time, it is all up to the customers "money belt". Are they 
> willing to pay for a "follow up" tuning. 

Duaine, 

You are starting to change your tune, but that's okay. 
because the tune you are advocating here 
falls more in line with what generally is experienced as what is. 

Keith 
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